DBurns Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Creation has a Creator Monarch Butterflies only live for a few weeks, must lay their eggs on milkweeds up north, and mate most of that time. They lay their eggs up north, and then when the Fall comes, the eggs hatch, and the Monarchs fly South to Mexico. There in Mexico is a valley that winters all the butterflies, where they all cling to the trees. Now some scientists think that the butterflies not only make it back to the same valley in Mexico, but the same actual tree their parents came from. All this never having been shown, or led the route, with a brain smaller than a nat. Far more interesting than soundposts, and far more important, but then again the soundpost is the soul! Violins have Makers .... some who can and some who can't fit posts. Monarch's map to Mexico "In an unparalleled marvel, the monarch's brain also automatically corrects for the sun's movement by tapping into an internal circadian clock, that instinctive conformity to the dawn-to-dusk cycle that shapes the rhythms of waking, sleeping and eating in animals." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBurns Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Geese fly at night because they get frequent flyer miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James M. Jones Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Rodgers post contains the answer, but it is not highlighted, and is framed as a possibility ,Animal reaserchers are finding this in many birds, insects, mammals,reptiles and fish. There is real science behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 To be clear ,I guess I was offering my wood to anyone who can answer the question of why geese like to fly at night, just to play on a cold day ,,,,for the Art of it so to speak ,Not thinking you are running out, if that's what you thought I was thinking....I think... therefore ...??? and your welcome. Nocturnal migration occurs because it provides a survival advantage over alternative migration strategies. As Roger says, nocturnal migration is advantageous to species that can maximize foraging time and eneregy storage/replenishment can occur immediately before and after nocturnal flights. Predator (raptors that utilize thermal soaring) evasion may also play a role. Diurnal bird migration is advatageous with species with efficient energy gain after migratory flight when suitable stopover/foraging sites are located during flight, or if energy loss during diurnal flight is minimized by thermal soaring, or by fly-and-forage strategies. Combined diurnal/nocturnal migration occurs when species migrate across regions of poor foraging potential. Here is a good paper that discusses how species "know" when to migrate. If I win for the most complete answer can I have one of your hold down clamps instead of wood? -Jim CIRCADIAN AND CIRCANNUAL PROGRAMMES IN AVIAN MIGRATION.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 From post fit to avian migration. We are truly Renaissance men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James M. Jones Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Jim ...you bet!,I'll be happy to send one if you PM me your address, just for the effort. I must admit that I phrased the question wrong, sorry folks, it is not a why but rather a HOW..that is ,What is the mecanisim that allows Geese to navagate at night? .hint , sailors use one. Mind you I am not a scientist that studies geese (goosealagist).the study was originaly conducted with pigions and has been extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Mind you I am not a scientist that studies geese (goosealagist).the study was originaly conducted with pigions and has been extended. ...gooseolog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Yeah I win! I was going to PM you anyway about buying one of your bench hold downs that you put on the luthier exchange a while back. Now I'll have to buy you a beer instead. Cheers, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertdo Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I wish someone could summarise what the answer to the original question is after all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Noon Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I wish someone could summarise what the answer to the original question is after all... Good contact avoids damage to the plates; soundwise, it's anyone's guess. 30 pages and still going, and that's basically all we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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martin swan Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Don & Carl have said it ... or I thought Carl did but he's retracted! Maximum contact at the ends without distorting the arching up or down - this should be the objective. Tonal enhancement should be carried out within those parameters (bearing in mind that small errors in the short term turn into big problems in the long term). I believe the structural integrity of a given violin should be the first item on the agenda, sound enhancement comes second. But that's speaking as someone with around 100 violins on the premises - people who own one violin perhaps don't have the luxury of thinking that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violins88 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well, 30 posts, for me, were not in vain. I just realized that if you fit a post perfectly, then the strings are tightened and tension is placed on the bridge foot, the foot will compress a bit. Seems like this would try to rock the wood to the forward edge of the soundpost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erocca Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well, 30 posts, for me, were not in vain. I just realized that if you fit a post perfectly, then the strings are tightened and tension is placed on the bridge foot, the foot will compress a bit. Seems like this would try to rock the wood to the forward edge of the soundpost. You're probably right. I love it..maybe 30 more posts are in order to figure out how to avoid it. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Exactly - trying to maintain a balance of elements .... accepting that not every violin can be fabulous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbjörn Zethelius Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I wish someone could summarise what the answer to the original question is after all... I gave my answer in post #7. Summed it up as well as I could at the moment. There are probably more factors that's affected as well. About the geese... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Goldsmith Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well, 30 posts, for me, were not in vain. I just realized that if you fit a post perfectly, then the strings are tightened and tension is placed on the bridge foot, the foot will compress a bit. Seems like this would try to rock the wood to the forward edge of the soundpost. ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlVcl Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Take your pick from the 20 or so who post on this site. I doubt that you'll get anyone to furnish a list here, who is qualified to do so. I should pro'ly stop trying to be droll until I learn why my emoticons won't work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Don & Carl have said it ... or I thought Carl did but he's retracted! He's finally learned that nobody pays any attention. Took a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I was paying attention - I thought that was a nice post .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 He's finally learned that nobody pays any attention. Took a while... Dear me, what about "art for art's sake"? Rest assured, your posts get noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddler45 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I wish someone could summarise what the answer to the original question is after all... In my humble opinion, I think ctviolin summed it up pretty nicely in post 506. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I was paying attention - I thought that was a nice post .... Dear me, what about "art for art's sake"? Rest assured, your posts get noticed. Matthew 11:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Beard Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Oops. Wrong thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janito Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Matthew 11:15 Is this a betting tip? If so, where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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