bcncello Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Who's this guy? http://www.ebay.de/itm/alte-Geige-Meistergeige-Violine-mit-Zettel-old-violin-with-label-/221296535350?pt=Streich_und_Zupfinstrumente&hash=item33864d2736 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPlate Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 KOCH, FRANZ JOSEPHResident at Dresden, 1915. Delved into the tone quality of Cremonese instruments and by microscopical scientific researches identified a substance which is bound capillarily in the wood, and which is the cause of the striking and typical homogeneity of old Italian violin wood and determines the resonance feature of the old classical tone. Brought out violins, violas and ’cellos under the name of “Homogeneous Stringed Instruments”, 1920, claimed they were distinguished from other modem instruments by their extraordinary and characteristic Cremona tone, etc. Achieved wide publicity by soliciting famous virtuosi to publicly solotise on them, had high praise from Lütgendorff (who affirmed the nobly sweet tone, etc.) and other well known connoisseurs, also passed throught the armour of inevitable adverse criticism. Models of various old Italian instruments, sometimes absolute replicas in varnish and wear, and one named “Aeona” (for orchestral players) all splendid commercial realisations, impeccable workmanship, transparent oil varnish of different tints (dark brown, reddish brown, orange, red and yellow).--------------------------------Prof. F. J. Koch/Dresden.Anno 1922. No. 534.--------------------------------Trade mark, a ring and arrow burnt in the wood, also the name Koch as though written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will L Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Interesting how all the promotion and "soliciting famous virtuosi" led to one selling for $444 and another for $1280 in the mid 1980s. Maybe the world of players, dealers, and collectors are just a bunch of buffoons who don't know a great violin when they see one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Maybe the world of players, dealers, and collectors are just a bunch of buffoons Naahhh, no evidence of that here on The Auction Scroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 “Koch” is pronounced “Cock” should anyone be interested. Three guesses where it was made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'd be very surprised if this is a Koch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPlate Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Here is a Koch which I believed to be original. (I was going to bid it, but forgot the time sadly...) http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gute-klingende-Geige-Violin-mit-Brandstempel-und-schoenem-Ollack-/111178780104?ssPageName=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA%3AUS%3A3160&nma=true&si=vpTBTlR7jUX5P3eENq7pF7naAVY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 That's more like it ..... Spot the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPlate Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Yeah...I overslept unfortunately... Here's an example of a real Koch http://www.ifshinviolins.com/Portals/3/ifshin_siteImages/FineInstruments/Violins/aeona11811-b.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcncello Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Yeah...I overslept unfortunately... Here's an example of a real Koch http://www.ifshinviolins.com/Portals/3/ifshin_siteImages/FineInstruments/Violins/aeona11811-b.jpg Caspace! you're the king of eBay Thank you so much for the links. I 'googled' for a while but couldn't find legitimate images. Well if that one was genuine it'd have been a good opportunity indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcncello Posted October 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 “Koch” is pronounced “Cock” should anyone be interested. Three guesses where it was made Should we start with the 'Fuchs' and the 'Kochs'? Well, anyway I 'care less' how it may be pronounced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 The dates are discrepant too. Thanks for the great post and links, Caspace Jacob, as always, has contributed priceless local information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 “Koch” is pronounced “Cock” should anyone be interested. Three guesses where it was made Don't want to kill the joke, but it is pronounced with "ch" like in J.S.Bach. And that's my first guess, too: 1.) -bach The others: 2.) Schön- 3.) MNK Here is a Koch which I believed to be original. (I was going to bid it, but forgot the time sadly...) http://www.ebay.de/itm/Gute-klingende-Geige-Violin-mit-Brandstempel-und-schoenem-Ollack-/111178780104?ssPageName=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA%3AUS%3A3160&nma=true&si=vpTBTlR7jUX5P3eENq7pF7naAVY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 I wouldn't be surprised, if this violin will be relisted again after short or long - the same seller listed it under a different name before, as a buy-it-now for something between Euro 2 and 3 k, when my memory is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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