Peter K-G Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Posted October 28, 2013 After yesterdays adventure with a series of "unlucky" incidents, I went straight to the workshop in the morning, to see how it turned out. Everything is fine, the minor uneven bending can be hidden, but I really should learn to stop when things aren't going well! Decided to document every mistake and problems that's coming up along the way with this one.
Jim Bress Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Decided to document every mistake and problems that's coming up along the way with this one. That's smart. I often think I make mountains out of ant hills. On the flip side, there are probably serious mistakes I'm not even aware of. Showing your "good" and "bad" work is a nice way to learn the difference. -Jim
Peter K-G Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Posted October 28, 2013 Instead of making new proper clamping blocks I continued improvising Shame on me! I promise I won't do this again.
Peter K-G Posted October 29, 2013 Author Report Posted October 29, 2013 Rise up this mornin, Smiled with the risin' sun Don't worry about a thing, Cause every little thing gonna be all right... I love making violins
curious1 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 Rise up this mornin, Smiled with the risin' sun Don't worry about a thing, Cause every little thing gonna be all right... Ribs29102013.jpg Corner29102013.jpg I love making violins It is indeed a wonderous thing.
James M. Jones Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 Rise up this mornin, Smiled with the risin' sun Don't worry about a thing, Cause every little thing gonna be all right... Ribs29102013.jpg Corner29102013.jpg I love making violins singing sweet songs,of melody pure and true!
Peter K-G Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Posted October 30, 2013 singing sweet songs,of melody pure and true!
Peter K-G Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Posted October 30, 2013 Linings on back side done, this time I extended c-bout lenghts into the corner blocks, at least a little. I always make linings "on the fly", usually from some leftovers, this time from the top wood.
Peter K-G Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Posted October 31, 2013 I corrected some errors that occured during ribs gluing in upper bout, by adjusting the bending of the linings.
Peter K-G Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Posted November 2, 2013 Back halves joined together. This wood is different from what I have used before, same thing with the ribs. Only toothed blade works. I primed the joints before gluing. Unfortunatly I think I might have used too thick glue for the final gluing (used a lot of glue). Clamped together tightly, put some more glue over the joint and brushed over with hot water a couple of time. Let's see tomorrow. One thing hit me, maybe it would be a good way to glue the halves directly after planed with the toothed blade without scraping the joints flat?
Don Noon Posted November 2, 2013 Report Posted November 2, 2013 One thing hit me, maybe it would be a good way to glue the halves directly after planed with the toothed blade without scraping the joints flat? Next time duck, so you won't get hit by these things again.
Peter K-G Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Posted November 2, 2013 Jepp, probably not a good idea, but I wasn't that out of line: http://wpatrickedwards.blogspot.fi/2011/05/more-toothing-plane-info.html This also confirms using a plane like a scraper in the planing ribs topic: http://www.maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/329155-planing-ribs-how-to/?hl=%2Bplaning+%2Bribs
Peter K-G Posted November 3, 2013 Author Report Posted November 3, 2013 As I suspected the joint is not perfect. I know the gluing is strong so I will go on with it. It looks better on the back side and deeper down. The wood is a little odd and special. It will be exciting to see how the tuning turns out. Fortunatly I have planes nowadays
actonern Posted November 4, 2013 Report Posted November 4, 2013 Why are you using a toothed blade on plate joints?
Cliff Green Posted November 4, 2013 Report Posted November 4, 2013 My studies suggest that the fine straitions prevent transmorgrification of the modes between bass and treble sides of the plate.
Peter K-G Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Posted November 4, 2013 Why are you using a toothed blade on plate joints? I didn't manage to get any normal plane to work on this maple! I tried all the other planes above, even rasor sharp and thin shavings as I use to, but i still chipped out in the curls. It's a new experience for me. The Wood is also well seasoned. If you look at the second picture (back side) you can see that the wood is grown uneven and dense grown. it looks like maple for bridges in some places.
Peter K-G Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Posted November 4, 2013 Found a couple of hours to do some work today too. Someone reminded me with the last violin that we live in 2013 so I got me some power Tools. The joint is fine deeper down.
Peter K-G Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Posted November 4, 2013 Not that it matters at this point but 553 g and 615 Hz
Peter K-G Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Posted November 5, 2013 Traveling... going to look for a violin shop and test some violins after meetings today. I usually do that when I visit Cities.
Peter K-G Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Posted November 5, 2013 Fortunately clients can't read minds as I sit in meetings and thinking about carving maple Played some factory violins ~2,5 K€ all "softies" and very light. Didn't have my pad with my so I couldn't track the modes this time.
Peter K-G Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Posted November 6, 2013 I invented a new KPI (Key Performance Indicator) gram/min. 1 hour of exercise, 109 g removed -> 1,82 g/min 445 g, E string
pbelin Posted November 7, 2013 Report Posted November 7, 2013 Peter, Can you Tell me what app you're using for mode tracking? Thanks (I'll PM you one of these days for the whole picture!) Paul
Peter K-G Posted November 8, 2013 Author Report Posted November 8, 2013 I'm using Studio Six Digital - Audiotools (FFT) http://studiosixdigital.com/audiotools/ It's a great App with a lot of other functions besides FFT. I have also used it as a tone generator for double checking modes and chladni patterns. .
Peter K-G Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Posted November 9, 2013 Blood, sweat and g/min dramatically decreasing. Bad KPI it's logarithmic, KPI's should be linear. Edges 4,2 mm Great Wood! Humidity 42%, 369 g, 683 Hz, clear and sharp ring After this it will be "secret" stuff for a while
Peter K-G Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Posted November 9, 2013 just noticed I'm out of purflings
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