Janito Posted July 20, 2013 Report Posted July 20, 2013 Texture: My admiration. Please say some more about the process for obtaining the varnish texture. Did you treat the wood to accentuate the summer/winter growth of the spruce?
christian bayon Posted July 21, 2013 Author Report Posted July 21, 2013 Melvin, yes, for violin and viola I' m lucky to have old wood, not as old for cello unfortunately. Janito, for have a 3D effect on your varnish, you should start to think about it very early, when you are doing your woodwork . If your finish your violin and start to varnish in separate work, it will be dificult to obtain an interesting look. For the varnish work, I use thick varnish with my fingers, trying to catch a "Van Gogh" look, having a 3D effect like his painting, in the top of the 3D effect of my woodwork .
Janito Posted July 22, 2013 Report Posted July 22, 2013 For have a 3D effect on your varnish, you should start to think about it very early, when you are doing your woodwork . Thanks - I understand.
christian bayon Posted July 24, 2013 Author Report Posted July 24, 2013 Strad Magazine, August issue.
Jim Bress Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Nice article Christian and a nice work space! -Jim
Don Noon Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 for violin and viola I' m lucky to have old woodIs that 1954 I see written on the old wood posted earler? If not, how old... and could you describe any differences in carving and scraping old wood vs. say 5 year old? I'd add my complements on your work and shop, but there are too many of them already. So I'll whine about you making us look like hacks.
tango Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Christian I am impressed from your work. I am only a violinist who love wood and instruments. I am varnishing at this time my second and trird and would like learn your style becouse match my taste One day, when varnishin my first (viola), I understood the importance of the scraper work at the moment of the finishing the blank wood. Then experimented differents pressures and directions of the srcaper. Don´t find other way of learning but making test (mistakes and successes) Finally: congratulations for sound and looking. Regards Tango
MANFIO Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Very nice, congrats Cristian, meus parabéns!!!
christian bayon Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Posted July 25, 2013 Is that 1954 I see written on the old wood posted earler? If not, how old... and could you describe any differences in carving and scraping old wood vs. say 5 year old? Really, it is not very different from 15 to 60 years (I don´t use 5 years old wood). I don´t have made better violin with older pieces. I don´t have good experience with very old spruce (100/150 years) the sound was not very good, but I know some very competent colleagues (Wendy and Pete Moes) who have very good results with old pieces.. Old spruce is some time difficult for central joint, the cut of plane is not so clean. One day, when varnishin my first (viola), I understood the importance of the scraper work at the moment of the finishing the blank wood. Then experimented differents pressures and directions of the srcaper. Don´t find other way of learning but making test (mistakes and successes) Tango You are right, I´m on my 37 years of this experiments. Very nice, congrats Cristian, meus parabéns!!! Obrigado!
Michael_Molnar Posted August 1, 2013 Report Posted August 1, 2013 Lovely workshop. Great layout. You have a lot of bench top space. Honestly, do you really keep it that clean or just hope so? (Grins) Mike
christian bayon Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Posted August 1, 2013 Yes, it's good to have four benches for two people (me and my assistant) , a workshop like mine, where we just make new instrument it's normally not as messy as a repair workshop and .....I have an excellent maid!
Peter K-G Posted August 12, 2013 Report Posted August 12, 2013 Christian, I would love to have my ongoing project look like this when it's finnished: http://www.maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/328424-christian-bayon%C2%B4s-bench/page-2#entry591601 Think I got any chance?
christian bayon Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Posted August 12, 2013 Why not? try to work with a quite thick varnish, an, like I said before, it depend of your wood working too.
actonern Posted August 15, 2013 Report Posted August 15, 2013 Christian: Can I ask, after the pigmented dirt has been rubbed in and out, do you polish with shellac or something else? Best regards, Ernie
christian bayon Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Posted August 16, 2013 I polish it but I do not need shellac, when the varnish is still fresh, you can polish it only with alcohol and a drop of oil (practice before!!!)
actonern Posted August 16, 2013 Report Posted August 16, 2013 Thanks Christian! But doesn't this wipe the "dirt" out of the little grooves and clean off that patinated look? Best regards, E
christian bayon Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Posted August 27, 2013 My worshop on French TV (FR3) ........in French!
Urban Luthier Posted August 27, 2013 Report Posted August 27, 2013 Wow, really nice profile Christian! Very inspirational. I love your workshop Chris
tango Posted August 27, 2013 Report Posted August 27, 2013 New viola, CA Testore again! Hi Cristian I like so much this red (#10) but may not buy some pigments in Buenos Aires and don´t know somebody who advice me. Next octover will visit Cremona Mondomusica, Firence and Veneto. I expect to buy some red pigment for oil varnish. Could you advice me about what purchase? Thanks in advance Tango http://www.maestronet.com/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2013/post-29794-0-94812700-1374769712_thumb.jpg
christian bayon Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Posted August 28, 2013 Hi Cristian I like so much this red (#10) but may not buy some pigments in Buenos Aires and don´t know somebody who advice me. Next octover will visit Cremona Mondomusica, Firence and Veneto. I expect to buy some red pigment for oil varnish. Could you advice me about what purchase? Thanks in advance Tango http://www.maestronet.com/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2013/post-29794-0-94812700-1374769712_thumb.jpg I buy my pigments from Kremer and Laverdure . I like the "Cinquasia rotgold" (23585 from Kremer) and the "noir d´ivoire" (ivory black) from Laverdure.
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