David Burgess Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Many moons ago, we were discussing alternatives to the conventional saddle. Think something like this is too ugly and unconventional to fly? It just sits there, held on by tail adjuster tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleDoug Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I like it! Simple, no wories about plate shrinkage around the saddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Russell Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I like it too. If you were to make the part that goes down towards the button long, you could make the saddle higher or lower, or even adjustable. It could be very useful for trying out and adjusting string angles over the bridge. Think I'll try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I would line it with cork like a chinrest so it doesn't mar the wood. The saddle on my dobro is made that way, going all the way to the end pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I like it too. If you were to make the part that goes down towards the button long, you could make the saddle higher or lower, or even adjustable. It could be very useful for trying out and adjusting string angles over the bridge. Think I'll try that. If you're talking about it extending far enough to rest on the endbutton, that might end up with reduced enough net side force on the endbutton to allow it to pop out. A shim under the thingamajig might do the trick. I was also thinking it could be molded perfectly to the edge, or adjusted for height by putting a little epoxy on the underside, and a release agent like cling film or aluminum foil on the fiddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Many moons ago, we were discussing alternatives to the conventional saddle. Think something like this is too ugly and unconventional to fly? It just sits there, held on by tail adjuster tension. That's a very neat idea. Love it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Many moons ago, we were discussing alternatives to the conventional saddle. Think something like this is too ugly and unconventional to fly? It just sits there, held on by tail adjuster tension. By the way, is that one of your violins ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 David, I like the idea, no buzzes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 David, I like the idea, no buzzes? None detected so far. The angle of the bend is slightly flatter than the angle of the tail adjuster, with the idea of preventing that. Yes, Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yes, Carl.Looks absolute perfection to me. Nice color. How long does it take to make one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Molnar Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Looks elegant and clean. Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Buncha brown-nosers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Oh good, at least we won’t have to get Burgesses and Stradivaris mixed up any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 You could make them from Budweiser cans for fiddlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarylG Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Looks cool. I've seen similar designs used to make super high saddles for basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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actonern Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I'm wondering if it might be a source for edge cracks. There looks to be quite a bit of downward torque applied to the spruce that is out over the edge, the wood here already quite weak from the purfling channel in front. Might the stress over time crack this edge area even if the purfling stops the crack from propagating into the plate? The conventional saddle applies these forces to the block and block supported plate edge. Best regards, E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert MacPherson Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Many moons ago, we were discussing alternatives to the conventional saddle. Think something like this is too ugly and unconventional to fly? It just sits there, held on by tail adjuster tension. David, What's it made of? My first thought was "blued steel", but I see that that ain't it. Is it wood, or plastic? Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Oh good, at least we won’t have to get Burgesses and Stradivaris mixed up any more Right, aluminum was too expensive in Stravidari's day. Note that's "aluminum", and not "aluminium". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert MacPherson Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Right, aluminum was too expensive in Stravidari's day. Note that's "aluminum", and not "aluminium". That's a fact! And anodizing was even costlier! I guess that answers my question about material...... Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 David, What's it made of? My first thought was "blued steel", but I see that that ain't it. Is it wood, or plastic? Mac It's aluminum sheet, bent with a die (drill rod on one side, soft wood on the other side, squeezed in a vice), and colored using the high-tech Magic Marker coating process. Could be anodized or powder coated, I suppose. Or polished stainless? Oh, gold plated!! Dang! Then Jacob might even use 'em on Strads that haven't had the saddle mortise cut out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Dorsey Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 One possible downside would be an inattentive player who doesn't notice that the thing has fallen out, perhaps when changing strings, allowing the tailgut to dig into the top edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 It's aluminum sheet, bent with a die (drill rod on one side, soft wood on the other side, squeezed in a vice), and colored using the high-tech Magic Marker coating process. Could be anodized or powder coated, I suppose. Or polished stainless? Oh, gold plated!! Dang! Then Jacob might even use 'em on Strads that haven't had the saddle mortise cut out yet. Carbon fiber would be very neat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 One possible downside would be an inattentive player who doesn't notice that the thing has fallen out, perhaps when changing strings, allowing the tailgut to dig into the top edge. Yeah, that would be ugly! Heh heh, Daryl had a bass in his shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 David, start to finish, how long to complete one of those violins ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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