Roger Hargrave Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Rene knows the owner of this bass better than me and I will talk to him about the possibility of drawing up plans. However, copying the bass and drawing plans are essentially two different things. This was not our remit at the time and I am not sure if after all that has happened we will want to embark on yet another project. The other alternative is for us to prepare a set of plans based on our own copy, but that will also take time and I am not sure if Rene would be willing to undertake this. Nevertheless I will risk a bloody nose and ask him. As for the technical reasons why the printing was not possible I will ask my friend who helps with these things. But I think that the advice offered by Urban Luthier (Chris) will work well enough. I am going to do this for myself when our new arrival gives me some time. http://www.roger-har.../Bibliothek.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James M. Jones Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Chris /Rodger,Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Has anyone had trouble printing the PDF of the Bass Book? I tried to print another copy directly from the PDF and I can't get past page 24. Wondering if it is a memory thing our printers or if something is amiss wiht the PDF itself. I was able to successfully print the whole doc but I had to print through the Apple Preview tool on my mac which reads PDFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not telling Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 It's just a huge file (delightfully so, but huge). I had to do some weird computery guesswork stuff to get it to print too. I think it took 15 minutes for the whole thing to load on a relatively new computer I was using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Hi Not telling, were you able to print it from Adobe Reader directly or did you do what i did and open it with the Mac viewer and print from there? from Adobe reader, i can't print anything above page 24, not even a single page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not telling Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 If I recall correctly there are two versions, and one of them eventually printed from Adobe Reader. Used a PC and printed a booklet and a book without issue. Didn't have to do anything else to the file or anything. One of the versions definitely does not work really well, at least on the system I was using, which is when I tried the other version instead. I am a computer idiot, just had a "by hook or by crook" mentality, gave myself two hours to get it done because I figured,knowing me, I'd have trouble, and I got it to print. It's possible, I swears it. My ability to print this when no one else can might be like how a mentally retarded person doesn't know that they aren't supposed to be able to lift up a car, so they just do. (I apologize for what may seem like an insensitive analogy, but I've seen it happen, and I know nothing about computers, so I find it apt!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarloBartolini Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Hi Not telling, were you able to print it from Adobe Reader directly or did you do what i did and open it with the Mac viewer and print from there? from Adobe reader, i can't print anything above page 24, not even a single page. I opened the 62 mb PDF in (Mac) Preview and Acrobat reader (OSX Yosemite 10.10.3) without any issues, have not printed it, but when I print preview it is all there on both programs, don't see why it would not go any further, perhaps an issue between your printer and Adobe Reader..or the memory thing you mentioned. When I from Adobe reader ask to print pages 26 and 27 it goes into Print Utility no problem and I can open the 2 page doc from there, so I assume there is nothing wrong with the PDF. It opens fine on the PDF Attributes program too. If you'd like me to do any tests I can try connecting to a printer later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Thanks Carlo. Good to know. I'm able to reproduce everything you described above -- the only difference is it won't print about a certain page number. I was using the high res version also (Bass_Making_Part_12_150.pdf). I'm going to re-download and try again. The other thing to note is this docs is set up for a4 (euro) vs north american letter. Using the latter requires the printer to scale and this may cause a memory management issue. i'll let you now how i progress Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCockburn Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Hi Not telling, were you able to print it from Adobe Reader directly or did you do what i did and open it with the Mac viewer and print from there? from Adobe reader, i can't print anything above page 24, not even a single page. I have exactly the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 the only way a was able to get around this was to use the viewer app on the mac and print from that but the only caveat here is that it took 2 hours to print! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Is there no Vanity Publisher that would print some good quality copies? Maybe if we had enough people interested the price would be reasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter K-G Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 The document (high res one) is not optimized for printing. The images are unnecessary big for paper view. For viewing the document via browser it's a good thing. It would be possible to scale down them with Adobe software but the document is secured, also so search engines like Google can't index the document text. I wonder why because it's public anyway via Roger's site. I printed the pdf document to file as XPS format first. I could upload this file for direct printing from a Windows machine here, but that would allow search engines to index the text and it might not be what Roger want as he secured the original document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagylaj Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Dear Roger! I would like to revarnish my bass. I tried many varnishes, but the result was nolt so good. I would try Your recipe, but unfortunatelly I do not have place to cook it. My question is: Would You sell a quantaty of Your colophony varnish for me for a bass? I am professional musician, it is only my hobby. I am sorry to disturb You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Edwards Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 It's not just the varnish, it's the whole system you need, This is a huge project you're undertaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Dorsey Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 ...i can't print anything above page 24... ...it won't print about [sic] a certain page number.. I have exactly the same problem. Me, too. I loaded the file onto a thumb drive and took it to a commercial copy/print shop that was unable to print anything past page 24. Then I deleted it from the thumb drive, loaded it again and took it to two commercial printers who were both unable to print anything past page 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Molnar Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 My copy prints. I do not know if this is Roger's final version, but it works. The date is 10/24/2014 Bass_Making_Part_12_72.pdf 6.060 KB Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caoimhín Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 It's printing fine for me at the moment.... Need to buy more ink cartridges though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 The 150 version is the problem one. The only way a was able to get around this was to open the PDF in the viewer app on my mac and save again as a PDF. if this doesn't work use the 72 dip version mike notes above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagylaj Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Dear Roger! What happened with the bass? Does it sound good? Could You give me some advice for grounding a bass? What should I use for it? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 hi nagylaj The entire project is documented in a book published on Roger's website. There is extensive information on Roger's ground and varnishing workflow. You can download the book here Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 One small addition the Bass Book project -- Roger just published an article on 'fitting a bass bar' on his site. This, along with the 'Edge work' supplement, provide greater detail on these workflow tasks. As a lifetime student of violin making, I think the bass bar article provides the clear explanation I've seen on this topic. Thanks again to Roger for sharing. Enjoy! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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