Johnmasters Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Not often seen, Vuillaume Amati, 1851 A few more images available by clicking on the picture. BRAVO: This is the answer to all those people who are worried about the proper way to antique a violin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_N Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't have anything to match that Vuillaume! Just decided to schedule some time in to actually do something on violins this year on a regular basis. I saw Melvins post on the peg shaper and it reminded me I have to use mine. I didn't like it. I made it a different way and I couldn't clamp the blade on tight. Fought with it all the time. Tried it today with the same results. The twisting was hurting my fingers (even fingers I wasn't working, don't understand that), and I found a way to measure torsion strength on pegs (quality control?). I finally found the solution, and it works pretty good. I clamped it on the bench and I just lay the blade on the fixture. It doesn't take any pressure to turn, push the blade in with my left hand until it starts shaving and keep twisting with the right. If it gets tighter I stop and look for rub marks where the blade needs to cut more. The last two went easily. Maybe they're not perfect, but it's just rough now. You have to finish them off for each hole anyway. Now I need to make another one, and the button that I always forget to make! Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 My shavers before reaming hole to size...following MG's example in an old post...They're awesome...I think you're right about cinching the blade down tight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Molnar Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Great workmanship, Ernie! How long did it take you to design and make it? Mike PS: 1/4-20 socket head bolts and t-nuts are standard fare in my shop for all fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Not often seen, Vuillaume Amati, 1851 A few more images available by clicking on the picture. that's the kind of wood I look for, something memorable.There are very few "boards" one can look at and not have them all "look" the same...This back is memorable, One could look at 100 backs, with this one included, then look again say a year later, you would remember this one. The Z's within the flame stand out as unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 After making violas for 8 years I just finished a.... violin! Inspired in Del Gesù. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernhard Ritschard Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Need more guts to get it finished.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmccarthy Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Need more guts to get it finished.... Great photo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Goldsmith Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 End of the working day. Amati based viola to be delivered on Dec' 25th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCockburn Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 End of the working day. Amati based viola to be delivered on Dec' 25th Ho ho ho ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Goldsmith Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Ho ho ho ! Hehehe!...no quite seriously I am delivering this to a client in South London on Christmas day....Perfect for logistics as the client is at home & there will be minimal traffic and that will save me LOTS of time!..I'll be home in no time to cook dinner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCockburn Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hehehe!...no quite seriously I am delivering this to a client in South London on Christmas day....Perfect for logistics as the client is at home & there will be minimal traffic and that will save me LOTS of time!..I'll be home in no time to cook dinner! You simply have to wear your Santa suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernhard Ritschard Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Melvin, that looks great, more photos please! Looks like a great varnish job...! It's not too shiny, that's what I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Goldsmith Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Melvin, that looks great, more photos please! Looks like a great varnish job...! It's not too shiny, that's what I like. OK Bernhard....but only on condition that you expand on the amazing pic you posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Very nice viola Melvin, congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernhard Ritschard Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Beautiful, Melvin, and I am sure it sounds great! OK Bernhard....but only on condition that you expand on the amazing pic you posted above. Ok, I will expand, but unfortunately (or fortunately!) I don't have pictures of the finished (D-)violone, because it left the workshop before the strings stayed in tune, but after having tied the frets. It will come back in a week or two for an adjustment, and I will take some more pictures. The thickest string, the low D (34,62Hz) has a diameter of 6mmm, and I am glad it responds easily with almost no bow pressure. Great strings, but still a little smelly. This is a reconstruction of an instrument by G.P. Maggini, the original (in the Museo Santa Giulia, Brescia) has been transformed into a modern doublebass with only 4 strings, unfortunately. Some more pictures of the unfinished instrument: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Beautiful, Melvin, and I am sure it sounds great! Ok, I will expand, but unfortunately (or fortunately!) I don't have pictures of the finished (D-)violone, because it left the workshop before the strings stayed in tune, but after having tied the frets. It will come back in a week or two for an adjustment, and I will take some more pictures. The thickest string, the low D (34,62Hz) has a diameter of 6mmm, and I am glad it responds easily with almost no bow pressure. Great strings, but still a little smelly. This is a reconstruction of an instrument by G.P. Maggini, the original (in the Museo Santa Giulia, Brescia) has been transformed into a modern doublebass with only 4 strings, unfortunately. Some more pictures of the unfinished instrument: Nice, I've always wondered what it would be like to bend ribs that deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernhard Ritschard Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Nice, I've always wondered what it would be like to bend ribs that deep Jezzupe, it wasn't that much fun - the height of the bending iron is 22cm, the height of the finished ribs is 23.5cm... But I'm glad it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salve Håkedal Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's a great one! In any sense of the word. I'd love to hear it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jezzupe, it wasn't that much fun - the height of the bending iron is 22cm, the height of the finished ribs is 23.5cm... But I'm glad it worked. Well it looks just great! I commend you for having the bravery to build such a beast. As I would for anyone who dare plays such things. I really have a soft spot for bass/de'gamba players as I know how hard it is and how little recognition they seem to get. Let alone all the jokes if you play in a rock band and you have to lift the damn thing too...I would fear making one becuase I would be afraid I would like it and in short order I would have no room to move about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbow Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 After making violas for 8 years I just finished a.... violin! Inspired in Del Gesù. Beautiful work, Manfio! The varnish and photography are fantastic! Congratulations on your outstanding accomplishments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernhard Ritschard Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's a great one! In any sense of the word. I'd love to hear it! Well it looks just great! I commend you for having the bravery to build such a beast. As I would for anyone who dare plays such things. I really have a soft spot for bass/de'gamba players as I know how hard it is and how little recognition they seem to get. Let alone all the jokes if you play in a rock band and you have to lift the damn thing too...I would fear making one becuase I would be afraid I would like it and in short order I would have no room to move about Thank you, guys. Yes, it is a huge one and it has been a companion in my workshop for many months. Now, without it's presence, I feel somewhat lonely in the workshop. The bass player in Patrick Süskind's "The Double Bass" comes to mind... I really like the sound of bowed instruments with frets, there is a lot of "ring", and I hope I will be able to build more da gamba instruments. Flat backs are nice too, and less expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Goldsmith Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Thank you, guys. Yes, it is a huge one and it has been a companion in my workshop for many months. Now, without it's presence, I feel somewhat lonely in the workshop. The bass player in Patrick Süskind's "The Double Bass" comes to mind... I really like the sound of bowed instruments with frets, there is a lot of "ring", and I hope I will be able to build more da gamba instruments. Flat backs are nice too, and less expensive! Dear Bernhard...Did you do all the work as one man? ( often because the bass is so big a team of some kind is needed) It must have been a huge physical effort!...I would love to see / hear more.. Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Goldsmith Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 After making violas for 8 years I just finished a.... violin! Inspired in Del Gesù. Hi Luis, I like the way you work, it reminds me of some of the classic stuff & 'modern' Italians...probably you just cant' help it being from a line of Italian craftsman!....From our private conversations I know you went with big thicknesses on this one with some very interesting ways....I hope you will stay around to discuss this violin....Fascinating to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Molnar Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Very dramatic photo, Manfio. I hope it sounds as good as it looks. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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