Interesting Violin?

[GoldenPlate]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Alte-Italienische-Barock-Geige-/181002506490?pt=Antike_Musikinstrumente&hash=item2a249710fa#ht_500wt_1288

[jacobsaunders]

A slightly interesting and curious violin for a change! I have been wondering where to place it since breakfast time. The only observation I can make is that the body seems fairly old and judging by the wonky outline, seems made in the free rib/through neck tradition. Since the scroll looks less interesting and isn’t grafted, a probable diagnosis would be that some hack, unable to graft a neck, has just made a new scroll for it. The spelling mistakes in the German text seem very laboured, which doesn’t bode well. I have asked him to bring it round, so that I could have a closer look.

[bean_fidhleir]

So you don't reckon it's just local vernacular work, Jacob?

[jacobsaunders]

So you don't reckon it's just local vernacular work, Jacob?

I've often wondered if "vernacular" is your word creation, or if you have it from somewhere else?

[stephen maloney]

Coincidence? Or is a higher being involved?

[jacobsaunders]

Coincidence? Or is a higher being involved?

Ha Ha, The Austrian ebay page has "11 gebote" which translates to "11 bids" but could also be mis-understood by some (google) idiot translator to mean "comandments". I could be mistaken of course, and you yanks have an extra one (what would it be?)

[Will L]

11th: Thou Shalt Not Be Bored

[vathek]

Vernacular is often applied to architecture, but could be used to describe violins as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernacular_architecture

[bean_fidhleir]

I've often wondered if "vernacular" is your word creation, or if you have it from somewhere else?

No, I didn't invent it As Vathek pointed out, it's used for architecture. It's also used for sculpture, jewellery, and similar artistic craftwork including fiddles. It bears broadly the same relationship to "schooled" work as traditional music does to music composed by someone who'd be identified as "a composer". Vernacular work typically exhibits a high degree of craftsmanship, but doesn't follow the rules as laid down by people who lay down rules.

[jacobsaunders]

No, I didn't invent it As Vathek pointed out, it's used for architecture. It's also used for sculpture, jewellery, and similar artistic craftwork including fiddles. It bears broadly the same relationship to "schooled" work as traditional music does to music composed by someone who'd be identified as "a composer". Vernacular work typically exhibits a high degree of craftsmanship, but doesn't follow the rules as laid down by people who lay down rules.

I have always used the word differently; ie.if Roger said this or that "in the vernacular", that would be a polite way to say that he had been fing & blinding (smilley not working)

PS: I notice on the Wikip. Vern. Architecture link there is African vernacular, Alpine vernacular, American vernacular etc. etc. With violins, I wonder what concrete use it has, if everything that's a bit strange is "vernacular", does the term help at all?