French Dutch or Italian?

[GoldenPlate]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Years-old-antique-Master-violin-French-Dutch-or-Italian-1800-grafted-/330815750333?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0627c0bd

[stephen maloney]

I like the "formerly used as a skateboard" style patina.

The correct answer: Indonesian.

[Violadamore]

Looks German to me, pity they didn't show the endpin area. I've got a probably Mittenwald Stainer copy around here that looks a lot like this one, only minus the scratch marks. This guy's also offering a claimed Havelka starting for $780.00.

[lyndon]

this is possibly a scam, hes been offering this same violin before, look at his feedback

[martin swan]

Terse feedback comments such as "Thanks, good seller" pretty much always indicate violins which a seller has taken back without a fuss. In this seller's case the descriptions don't seem to have much to do with the violins, so I'm not surprised people send them back from time to time.

This particular violin is sold with a question mark at the end of the title heading, though I would be prepared to guarantee that it is in fact a violin. I think it's pretty interesting, though in desperate condition - I also think German (Saxon) c1800 though I know next to nothing about German violins. Prof. Saunders will maybe have a view ....

[jacobsaunders]

It's one of those Schönbach boxes ca.1870 with the fakes scratches on. Don't get fooled re. age, just because it looks like it has been buried in a chinese compost heap

[puckfandan]

Did you notice the hole in the back of the peg box behind the A peg on the "Havelka" I read a post a few days back where Jacob mentioned it was a Prague school trait.

Also, I noticed the seller is in China....so there you go, must be real!

[jacobsaunders]

Did you notice the hole in the back of the peg box behind the A peg on the "Havelka" I read a post a few days back where Jacob mentioned it was a Prague school trait.

Kind of a shame that Havelka worked in Linz, not Prague

[bean_fidhleir]

It's one of those Schönbach boxes ca.1870 with the fakes scratches on. Don't get fooled re. age, just because it looks like it has been buried in a chinese compost heap

Leaving aside the (rather obviously) fake antiquing and the slightly "off" model, Jacob, what do you think of what you can see of the workmanship?

(Does that neck have a wind in it?)

[Addie]

It's one of those Schönbach boxes ca.1870 with the fakes scratches on. Don't get fooled re. age, just because it looks like it has been buried in a chinese compost heap

Shouldn’t that be a Vogtland compost heap?