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A Rare Old 19th Century Violin. Perhaps Italian? French? English?


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A Rare Old 19th Century Violin. Perhaps Italian? French? English?

caspace ihaformosa offers us choices; please pick a country.

For the record, I may have seen this violin before - in a pawn shop in Candahar.

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The bidding is quite low. The pictures are not close enough to see the detail. Otherwise it is not "rare"

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You missed out the Vogtland, which is where the large majority of all fiddles on the planet come from, including this one.

Jacob: Is the color the thing that gives it away? I might have said said German 1920's....shipped to the US in the white and finished here (U.S).

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Jacob: Is the color the thing that gives it away? I might have said said German 1920's....shipped to the US in the white and finished here (U.S).

I think the whole thing "gives it away" as a relatively early (1880ish) "dutzendarbeit". I dont imagine for a second that the american did anything but label and sell it, he would probably be much to busy with his rubber stamps.

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I think the whole thing "gives it away" as a relatively early (1880ish) "dutzendarbeit". I dont imagine for a second that the american did anything but label and sell it, he would probably be much to busy with his rubber stamps.

Yes, I see what you mean....the scroll is cruder than the 1920's German and other aspects similar. Thank you. I do have a German violin around this era with a similar color which was in fact, varnished by an American, but I agree, mine is probably a rare case.

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It is "rare". To be special it was made one of its f hole higher than the other.

The asymmetrical notches are quite special as well. rolleyes.gif

Can anybody tell me... that is will anybody tell me about the purfling I see so often, that has the extreme narrow light band, and thick black?

Thanks.

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(But not on this fiddle)

Was a popular style that they bought from the "Adermacher" in Markneukirchen or Schönbach

Yes, not this fiddle. I had associated it with Markneukirchen-Schönbach via the scrolls (also not this fiddle), but since everyone knows my ID skills, I thought I had better ask. Is there an approximate date range for this style? I think I have seen it for as late as around 1920-1930? Am I correct in interpreting your reply as meaning it was also used on the type in the OP?

Thanks.

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Yes, not this fiddle. I had associated it with Markneukirchen-Schönbach via the scrolls (also not this fiddle), but since everyone knows my ID skills, I thought I had better ask. Is there an approximate date range for this style? I think I have seen it for as late as around 1920-1930? Am I correct in interpreting your reply as meaning it was also used on the type in the OP?

Thanks.

No, this fiddle is a bit earlier

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Jacob (and others),

do you know where this kind of purfling comes from? I don't ....

Not a Charles Bailly

That's the same as I was asking about. The corners are nicer than I usually see with this type. Also the same purfling that I joked about on the "Richard Duke."

http://milk.shake.org/~composre/violin/Duke/13%20cracksx.JPG

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