polkat Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I've been running across the term "Eyebrow" cleat lately looking at websites demonstrating different plate crack repair. I've never heard the term before. Can anyone explain it to me? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robedney Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Go to this link for a description and photos: http://www.stringrepair.com/Violin_Eyebrow_Patch.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Holmes Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Go to this link for a description and photos: Umm... That's a patch, not a cleat.. and not a method I'd use. These are cleats: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iburkard Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 The grain! The grain! if you don't get it click here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Holmes Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 The grain! The grain! Yup... and the removal, the removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iburkard Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 That must have been a horrible adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robedney Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Sorry!!! Wrong link! I meant to post this one: http://fourstrings.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey's example is much better than even the link I meant to include. A question: I've always thought of a "cleat" as being glued on top of the surface, and a patch as being let into the wood and then surfaced level with it. What is the correct technical difference between a cleat and a path??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Dorsey Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 A question: I've always thought of a "cleat" as being glued on top of the surface, and a patch as being let into the wood and then surfaced level with it. What is the correct technical difference between a cleat and a path??? The difference is exactly as you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAD~STYLE Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Would anyone know any other sites like those i might be able to look at to see more repair how to's? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Noon Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Here's my contrasty version (rock maple veneer on toasted spruce) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeSt Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 toasted spruce Is it common to add a "eyebrow" cleat to a new violin or do you do it because of the "toasted spruce"? Wouldn't a cleat there having an affect on the sound? Just curious. Cheers, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Noon Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I'm not sure how common it is to put eyebrow cleats on new construction, but I do it in an attempt to reduce the chance of a wing crack, which is very common. With my toasted wood, the crossgrain is even weaker than usual, so I think it makes even more sense to do it on mine. I don't believe it has any significant effect on sound. Whatever minor influence it might have, it would be even more difficult to determine if it is better or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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