C.B.Fiddler Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 I learned how to bend ribs on my violin makers 30 yr old custom made steel goliath. Since buying the Ibex, I have had difficulty - not just with the user-unfriendly shape, but with how the general design differs from what I learned with. I decided to adust it so that I may use it horizontally. I relocated the switch to the bottom, used model wood to plug the 2.5" switch hole, and drilled out an additional clamp hole. Here's what I learned on: Here are my adjustments: Ibex pics for those who want to know what it looks like apart: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Good! I have no problems with my IBEX iron, but I'm rather Franciscan with my tools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McTigue Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Is the box really made as it appears, from a single block of wood, hollowed-out? That's interesting. Wow, they really don't use much aluminum in those, do they? And from the charring on the box top, it does look as if they could use a bit more of a heat barrier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.B.Fiddler Posted April 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Thanks, Manfio! Tim, I was hoping you'd see that - I took that picture for you after reading your current thread. The next project will be what you're doing, but it may be a while before I start that. I do have the benefit of a bench sander when I tackle it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I imagine that, for those who don't like the IBEX shape, it's ease to attach a metal or aluminium piece with a different shape to the IBEX iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.B.Fiddler Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Manfio, Do you use your Ibex for violin ribs too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Yes, I use it for my violins too, the ribs on the C bouts of Del Gesù violins have no tight curves in general. Do you use a metal back strip? It's essential using one for bending ribs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.B.Fiddler Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Yes, I use a metal bending strap - and maybe I should switch to DG pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 What DG model would like to use? I'm thinking about making a Lord Wilton but I don't know if I will have time to make it since I have too many violas to make... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.B.Fiddler Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I should probably stick to what I'm doing for a while (strad pattern) until I get a few fiddles made. After that, I agree with your preference for the Lord Wilton. What DG pattern do you currently use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I've made many Cannone models... I find it quite a nice model, I particularly like the basses and the power reserve, but requires the proper player to make it sound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_A_T_T Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 quote: Originally posted by: MANFIO I imagine that, for those who don't like the IBEX shape, it's ease to attach a metal or aluminium piece with a different shape to the IBEX iron. It is. I'm surprized by the charring in that last photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.B.Fiddler Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hi Matt, It surprised me too. Particularly because I have had it less than a year and it has been used rather infrequently. Any suggestions on how to improve? Also, would you be opposed to showing us your modification? I know that Stewart MacDonald offers an iron with a threaded insert that accepts a cylinder for tighter curves. Is this what you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_A_T_T Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 quote: Originally posted by: C.B.Fiddler Also, would you be opposed to showing us your modification? More than happy to. http://www.maestronet.com/foru...ht_key=y&keyword1=iron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_A_T_T Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 quote: Originally posted by: C.B.Fiddler I know that Stewart MacDonald offers an iron with a threaded insert that accepts a cylinder for tighter curves. Is this what you use? I did have that mounted on my Ibex for a while. I had to drill and tap the 1/4-20 threaded hole for it. It helped, but I much prefer my design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janito Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I have never understood why most pictures of bending irons shown them mounted horizontally. Unless one is 4ft 8" tall, this is a very inefficient position because the rib is being bent down with 2 legs dropping towards the floor or across with one end below and one above the iron. I much prefer the iron to be veritcal and bend the 2 ends of the rib towards the body - one moves around around the iron, as necessary, to achieve the appropriate curves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.B.Fiddler Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 quote: Originally posted by: JanitoI have never understood why most pictures of bending irons shown them mounted horizontally. q] You have a good point regarding the height, but I still like it horizontal. I positioned my iron so that the rib is bent parallel to the floor - as my teacher's is - not perpendicular as the Stew-Mac pic shows. Matt, Sorry to make you repeat yourself - I remember that thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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