H.R.Fisher Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Hi All; I have noticed that on two piece maple backs the flame apex is usally toward the neck. Is this aesthetically critical or is this a personal preference on the part of the maker? On a project I'm working on I have reversed this because of a flaw in the wood.It occured to me later that this might not be acceptable. Thanks in advance for your responses, Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Melvin Goldsmith Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Either way is fine...You'll see Strad's with both ways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutchViolins Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Good question Henry! As far as I know both directions are done by the old masters: A V-pattern pointed to the neck and pointed to the tail. Is'n it a matter what is most beautiful? Thus indeed a matter of aesthetics? So it becomes a subjective item than? Frits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlecollector Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Take a look at the soil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutchViolins Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 What's that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlecollector Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Perlman`s Violin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Collin Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Soil Strad Notice the peg in the eye of the scroll..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GMM22 Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 What is known about the origin of the peg? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael K. Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Violin by Giuseppe Fiorini Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Omobono Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 The "Soil" (courtesy of tarisio.com) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Omobono Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 And a striking Panormo (again from a Tarisio catalogue) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutchViolins Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 So there are no specific 'rules' about how to direct the flame? (!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COB3 Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 There are some conventions regarding the continuation of the back flame into the sides...that the flame should continue its general inclination "around the corner" so to speak-- if it was flowing down, for example, it should continue at roughly the same angle or general direction, anyway. Beyond that it is a matter of taste, I think. Incidentally, when one makes the continuous ribs, that maintain the same slope all the way around, then obviously, the slope will match the back on one side and not the other, in the case of a bookmatched back, and non-bookmatched ribs. I'm really not convinced it is that important, as long as it is not just random.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutchViolins Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 For the back plates there's no convention. But considering the ribs there is. As discussed in an other thread (if I remember right) the figured ribs should follow a certain pattern depending on the use of a one piece back or a book matched one. Frits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jacob Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Of course, this rib/back figure continuation idea is meaningless in a Cremonese context, where often the figure on the ribs would be in the same direction right around. So, at least on one side of the instrument this matching up with the back regarding direction will be impossible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Omobono Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 quote: Originally posted by: Jacob in a Cremonese context often the figure on the ribs would be in the same direction right around. That's interesting - never thought of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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