mom2olivia Posted September 18, 2007 Report Posted September 18, 2007 Hi everybody! It has been ages since Idropped in here! My daughter is hopping up and down becauseher cleaning cloth has too much rosin in it. Can I just throwit in the washing machine? It doesn't seem like that wouldtake the rosin out of it, but I don't know what to do short ofbuying a new cloth. We are finally settled inour new home and even found a great new teacher from the VirginiaSymphony. He is a wonderful compliment to her previousteacher because he has different areas of emphasis so she isgrowing as a violinist and really enjoys him as a teacher. The new teacher wants her to work on her timing a little morebefore she auditions for the Bay Youth Orchestra so we haven't donethat yet, but it is on the schedule. Thanks, Wendy
kittykatjaz Posted September 18, 2007 Report Posted September 18, 2007 Put in in a laundry bag for delicates and toss it in the machine when doing a wash. It will thank you for it.
Steve_W Posted September 18, 2007 Report Posted September 18, 2007 Is this a microfiber cleaning cloth? What I do with mine is periodically soak it in isopropyl alcohol for a while then rinse it out in water and let dry. Gets rid of all the stickiness. -Steve
krugwaffle Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 I was wondering what I was going to do when my microfiber towel had finally had enough. I figured lots of hot water and a good soapy trip through the washing machine should remove the rosin. If that won't work I thought I'd try the alcohol prewash trick. Good to know somebody is having good results cleaning these handy little wipers.
mom2olivia Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Posted September 19, 2007 Hi Kitykayjaz, I will toss it in the washfirst to get all the loose stuff off and then use Steve's idea forwhatever doesn't come out. Hi Steve, Yes, it is a microfibercloth, I should have mentioned that :-) The alcohol idea isgreat! 9 year olds can be a little heavy handed withrosin so I'm sure it will need the alcohol soak to get it allout. Thanks!! Wendy
reedman Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 And microfiber cloths should not be washed with other non-microfiber items! Messes up the microfiber.
Darren Molnar Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 I just heard something about microfiber cloths on the radio yesterday. It was a house hold cleaning segment. They said that for these cloths, the most effective way to clean them is to boil them in a old pot on the stove,with a bit of salt. Apparently this opens up the fibers so that the old dirt can be released.Don't know if this will help with rosin, but, I thought I'd share any way.
skiingfiddler Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 I'll admit to not knowing what microfiber is, confirming my teen age daughter's conviction that I'm totally out of it. What has worked for decades for me is a piece of 100% cotton from old t-shirts, ones that have been washed so often that they have holes in them. I've found that if one piece of cloth serves for string cleaning and another piece serves for wiping the top and back of the fiddle, I avoid rubbing rosin taken from the strings onto and into the varnish. I used to wipe strings and varnish with the same cloth until I started using a dark cloth that showed all the rosin accumulating, as white, powdery streaks, on the rag from string cleaning. That's a rag I didn't want to use on the varnish. The solution was two rags. Anyway, pieces of old cotton can be discarded when dirty. I don't even try washing the string cleaning rag; just throw it away, but might wash the varnish wiping rag with the rest of the laundry if it doesn't look too dirty.
Marie Brown Posted September 23, 2007 Report Posted September 23, 2007 I use cotton and wash often, pitching and replacing periodically. A very good luthier that I know still swears by 100% silk. This matches what I was taught in my youth. Wondering why silk might still be the best, I did a little online reading about it. One thing I hadn't known before is that silk fibers are prism-like: that is, cross-sectionally triangular. This accounts for their luminous appearance. Would this also enhance their value in cleaning and polishing fine finishes? As a child I was told that silk heats up a bit when it rubs on something, which enables it to lift rosin better. One question remains: if silk is so great, why don't I see silk cloths for sale in every violin shop? Do luthiers assume that every string player can recognize a good piece of silk when they see one at a garage sale? If I ever figure out how to go junkin' for silk without dragging home a bunch of detritus from other people's houses, I'll put it in a book to sell at church rummage sales.
skiingfiddler Posted September 23, 2007 Report Posted September 23, 2007 I don't know if it's true or just a old tale, but I've heard that the advantage of 100% natural silk is that it won't adhere to or leave a pattern in the varnish, even if the varnish gets warm. This advantage for silk may have been part of the advertisement for silk interiors for up-scale violin cases. Silk seems to have less lint than cotton, so you might get a cleaner wipe-off of the varnish with silk. I keep my best fiddle in an old silk violin bag in the violin case. 100% natural silk violin bags seem pretty expensive. The ones I've seen were priced at about $80. On the other hand I've been able to buy new 100% natural silk scarves, large enough to wrap a violin up in, for about $10. In one Heifetz video, you see him unwrapping what looks like a typical 1950's woman's silk scarf from his fiddle. It might make sense to have two different textures of material in dusting off a fiddle, one slightly rough, slightly abrasive texture for the strings, and one softer one for the varnish. I don't think I'd clean strings with silk because of the material's expense and because it might not be abrasive enough.
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