Tecchler cello (?)

[pasman]

Hello to all!

We have there cello attributed (by owner 
) to David Tecchler.  For me it looks very similar too. But
as you could see it cello is in poor condition and was enlarged.
Please say what it may worth?  

Thank you,

Boris

[pasman]

Sorry please transfer topic to Pegbox...

[andrew weinstein]

Although it certainly looks interesting, pictures aren't adequate to say alot. Tecchlers are more likely to need cutting down than enlarging,

though if it was cut too much, someone else could have enlarged it.

[Richf]

What does it mean to "enlarge" a cello? Building up the ribs makes sense -- I have a violin like that. But how would one enlarge the top and bottom plates w/out creating something very freaky looking? Or maybe that's what was done to this "Tecchler" -- adding wood around the original edge. (Difficult to see in those photos.)

[fiddlecollector]

Richard the Tecchler?? has been enlarged round the outer edges of both the top and bottom bouts.If you look at the back picture you can see a curved line around an inch in at each side and tapering out to nothing near the corner and very bottom and top). So as Andrew as pointed out ,its either been enlarged from a model that was narrow across the top and lower bouts,or its been cut down too much and then enlarged again.

Its not an easy process to do (involving feathered grafts and in some cases keeping the original edges(or as much as they can)and is probably at the top level of a repairers work,to do it well.

Many large viols have had a similar thing done to them,to turn then into cellos or even violins/violas(smaller viols).

[Richf]

What an extraordinary amount of work. Presumably the rib cage is enlarged, too. Hard to imagine anyone doing a neat job of it, especially with the purfling left high and dry a half inch from the edge. Maybe that's how double purfling got it's start.

[Wilhelm]

The National Music Museum's Stradivari "http://www.usd.edu/smm/Cellos/Stradivari/10845StradCelloViol.html">

 viola da gamba -come- cello has been enlarged extremely

well.

[Richf]

Amazing. Thanks for sharing that.

[pasman]

Very interesting link, thank you. But maybe someone share his/her opinion about Tecchler cello?

[bean_fidhleir]

I don't know about Tecchler's cellos, but my impression is that the f-holes in his fiddles are much different to the f-holes we see in this cello. I wonder whether he did f-holes to a different model in his cellos.

[floli]

Anyone interested in an enlarged Tecchler?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Violoncello-Cello-Davi...1QQcmdZViewItem

:-)

[Jeffrey Holmes]

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pasman

Very interesting link, thank you. But maybe someone share his/her opinion about Tecchler cello?

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I think they already have.

I agree with Andy. Interesting, but can't tell much more than just that from the photos.

[pasman]

Yes, you right. Thanks to all, when I will get additional photos I'll post it!

[raspritz]

Um, I'm certainly no expert, but comparing your photos with those of several bona fide Tecchler cellos, yours doesn't appear even vaguely similar in form. Yours has a totally different (and much more crude) scroll, very different varnish, very different button, and is generally more crudely made. Of course, it could be the others are all incorrect....

[pasman]

That is some Tecchler cellos, f-holes from different periods looks

quite distinctive to me...

[pasman]

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[pasman]

sorry, that Java is really disaster at that time...

[raspritz]

I'm unclear what is the point of this thread.

[pasman]

Raspitz, I'm living in Russia and we absolutely haven't ANY serious or even non-serious experts here.

[Richf]

"I'm living in Russia and we absolutely haven't ANY serious or even non-serious experts here."

That's very interesting, Boris. I would think that Russia, with so many great violin and cello players and such important music schools, would have top experts. I guess we can't blame the Communists. Even going back before the Revolution, Russia has not produced any great violin makers. Am I wrong? (Sorry I can't comment on your cello. I'm not an expert in any country.)

[wmeng]

Dmitri Dischenko (Ukranian) eventually moved to the USA. His instruments are generally good. Can't think of any other good Russian makers though, living OR dead.

[pasman]

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Richf

"I'm living in Russia and we absolutely haven't ANY serious or even non-serious experts here."

That's very interesting, Boris. I would think that Russia, with so many great violin and cello players and such important music schools, would have top experts. I guess we can't blame the Communists. Even going back before the Revolution, Russia has not produced any great violin makers. Am I wrong? (Sorry I can't comment on your cello. I'm not an expert in any country.)

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Dear Richf,

I think that reason for that absence of experts were position of Soviet goverment, all that Iron curtain stuff. For example - even now we can't ("legally") move our instrument and sell it abroad. About violin makers - I don't know it either, only few good - Leman, I have seen some nice instruments by Podgorny. Bowmaker Kittel of course.

[pasman]

I know some contemporary Russian violinmakers who make good violins, Nikiforov, Kitov.