Omobono Posted September 22, 2006 Report Posted September 22, 2006 See a very smart looking instrument on the Tarisio site for the forthcoming auction. The same size as the one Luis Manfio has been showing off on the Pegbox thread. Not exactly cheap though. I like the model in general. Seems to have a touch of the Tertis model about it in the lower bouts?
Mike Margolis Posted September 22, 2006 Report Posted September 22, 2006 Went to Tarisio's site, and the catalogue is not yet available. How do you find out about these things early?
Omobono Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Posted September 22, 2006 The site now has a short list of highlights with illustrations including threeGagliano fiddles! Quite a feat in itself. http://www.tarisio.com/web/index.php
Hank Schutz Posted September 22, 2006 Report Posted September 22, 2006 I thought at first that image b2.jpg was reversed left-for-right because of the position of the fine tuner. But closer examination suggests the tuner is truly on the C string. I'm not a viola player. Is this not rather odd? HS
wmeng Posted September 22, 2006 Report Posted September 22, 2006 Looking at the choice of strings on this viola, no. The C string is metal, while the other three strings are gut.
Christopher Reuning Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 Mike, you may also go to NYC and see the instruments any time before the instruments travel to the previews.
Omobono Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Posted September 25, 2006 Christopher, Any interesting story on the background to the Becker viola. It is quite large - Is this typical? Doesn't seem to show a lot of wear for a 60 year-old. It is quite a high estimate for an (admittedly well-known) American. Besides that, the viola section looks quite solid this time round. Two Bisiachs and more. I presume the fact that all the items are listed as withdrawn when clicked means simply that the photos are not yet available? Good luck with the sale. Omo.
Christopher Reuning Posted September 27, 2006 Report Posted September 27, 2006 Omobono, The Becker viola comes from an estate in the midwest. It was purchased by that family from the Beckers when it was new. It has seen little use judging from the condition...just what we like to see! All the Becker violas that I have seen have been of the same large sized Strad pattern. They may well have had other models, but I am not aware of any. As far as value, Becker violins routinely sell in the $35,000 and up range depending on the period and condition. Older Beckers from the 1920's have sold for a good deal more than that. Most would say that a Viola should be priced somewhat more than a violin.
Christopher Reuning Posted September 27, 2006 Report Posted September 27, 2006 Tha catalogue is online now, by the way. www.tarisio.com
Omobono Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Posted September 28, 2006 Thank you, Christopher. I noticed the photos were available shortly after my last post. That is very informative - about the Becker viola. Yes, I always think violas should go for more than violins, but often that does not seem to be the case. It is a fine-looking instrument. A little out of the price range though a student of mine might be looking for. I would like to hear from someone who has the chance to try some of the 16.5 inch range of violas as to their sound. Also the viola bows (those two Nurnbergers, in particular.) Let me say too this auction seems full of interesting items. Congratulations! Hope it is a success.
MANFIO Posted September 28, 2006 Report Posted September 28, 2006 This Becker viola is really a very good instrument, the workmanship is very "clean" and precise. It's interesting to know that he sticked to big violas, perhaps because he got consistant tonal results with this size. I may be wrong, but I think I'll never make a small viola again too... (but never say never...).
MANFIO Posted September 28, 2006 Report Posted September 28, 2006 The second Bisiach viola is a very fine instrument ideed, I loved the edgework and the varnish.
zithromax Posted September 30, 2006 Report Posted September 30, 2006 Hi, I'm a player, and I've never been to an auction viewing before. Do you actually get to try their instruments, or is it strictly viewing only? Is there an admission fee? thanks...
MANFIO Posted September 30, 2006 Report Posted September 30, 2006 It seems you can play them, but some are without strings. And there will be more players in the room, I think...
fiddlecollector Posted September 30, 2006 Report Posted September 30, 2006 Some auction houses,eg sothebys,etc, if you live near by will let you take instruments home for a few days to try them as long as its well before the auction and you can satisfy them as to your ID ,but Tarisio have such a long auction i guess you have to go to a viewing to try them.I dont think this trial period applies to very high value instruments though.
MANFIO Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 I would love playing these violas and violins... It may be an incredible experience... But it may be a bit like experimenting parfums, after the 10th you get confused...
flaco Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 quote: Originally posted by: Christopher Reuning Most would say that a Viola should be priced somewhat more than a violin. I think violas are priced more than corresponding violins because violas have a more beautiful, richer, darker, sound. Wouldn't you agree?
MANFIO Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 I agree that violas should cost more, for these reasons: - the number of good sounding viola is smaller when compared to violins; - good sounding violas are much more difficult to make than viollins; - we, makers, have to take difficult decisions for making a viola, such as, size, string length, stop, type of sound, etc. - in the case of big violas, the instrument is much larger than a violin, there is more wood to be carved, refinished, varnished, etc; - the sound adjustments in violas are more complicated than on violins too.
MANFIO Posted October 19, 2006 Report Posted October 19, 2006 The Becker viola fetched 35 K (a big viola, 42.9), the fratelli Bisiach second viola 19 K.
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