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Loved this violin except for the shoulders

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Perhaps not on classic old Cremonese instruments, but you'll find some good old Italians with shoulders like that, some old Milanese makers for example. Sorry to say if this makes you feel bad but I think someone got a nice little fiddle there and from a well respected seller. Regards,Melvin Goldsmith

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Actually, if it were more of a dark-red colour, I would say that was my violin! It almost looks german to me. (although I am, by no means, an expert) The scroll looks the ame as my german one, with an uneven carving out of the bottom (note back view of scroll) The corners also look similar. I like them, they look smooth and elegant. It looks, nontheless, like a beautiful instrument.

( I do not want to take away from this thread, but this question does not warrant its own, "what is the advantage/disadvantage of a centered chinrest?" I ask, because I have one, and am curious as to why they are seldom used.)

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I share your puzzlement. In fact it does look like good Markneukirchen work. The modeling is not exclusive; I have a c.1900 Prague violin of similar outline. As for the varnish, I guess the photos don't do it justice. This is a good seller, though. I don't doubt the quality. In fact, I wonder whether the eBay process does justice to a professional instrument like this. Assuming auction prices are 50% of retail, this violin is somewhat undervalued.

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Perhaps the Topic Summary confused you?

Where I'm from "Is it a germany thing?"  refers to "Is it a

german trait / preference / idiosyncrasy?"

It wasn't meant as "Is the violin which is clearly german, really

german?"

But the point of the post was really to get opinions from the

experts on the likes and dislikes of the shape of the

shoulders.

BTW, thank you very much Melvin for your thoughtful response.

Best to all.

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Oh OK ajay, I think I did just read the whole presentation incorrectly or something!

So it's having the shoulder kind of go straight out and not sloping down which you do not like?

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To me, the shoulders look like they slope starting at the neck root

and then make a "tight" turn toward the upper corners, wear to the

edges aside.  On the old Cremonas, the shoulders come out more

horizontally for a short distance and the turn is more rounded.

 Visually and "historically" I find it more attractive, but

I'm not an expert.

Perhaps Melvin is indicating that it is what it is and there's

nothing wrong with what the maker intended?

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