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Hi,

I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

I have found an old violin left by a family member

that contains the following info on the label:

NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

Regards, Walt.

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: Hi,

: I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: I have found an old violin left by a family member

: that contains the following info on the label:

: NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: Regards, Walt.

Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

Tonya

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: : Hi,

: : I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: : I have found an old violin left by a family member

: : that contains the following info on the label:

: : NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: : To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: : around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: : In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: : the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: : and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: : marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: : the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: : The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: : Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: : described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: : it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: : Regards, Walt.

: Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

: Tonya

Hi Tonya,

You're prbably correct. It seems to good to be true.

I was looking at the Sotheby's Auction House home

page. They will look at the instrument for free

and let you know if it has any value. Of course

they will chrarge for a full appraisal or certification.

I'm about an hour and twenty minutes from their

New York Location. I plan on taking the violin

to them within the next two weeks or so. Goos

or bad, I'll post a message with the outcome.

Thanks -- Walt.

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: : : Hi,

: : : I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: : : I have found an old violin left by a family member

: : : that contains the following info on the label:

: : : NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: : : To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: : : around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: : : In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: : : the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: : : and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: : : marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: : : the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: : : The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: : : Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: : : described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: : : it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: : : Regards, Walt.

: : Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

: : Tonya

:

: Hi Tonya,

: You're prbably correct. It seems to good to be true.

: I was looking at the Sotheby's Auction House home

: page. They will look at the instrument for free

: and let you know if it has any value. Of course

: they will chrarge for a full appraisal or certification.

: I'm about an hour and twenty minutes from their

: New York Location. I plan on taking the violin

: to them within the next two weeks or so. Goos

: or bad, I'll post a message with the outcome.

: Thanks -- Walt.

Hi--couldn't help but notice the Amati name.

I'm searching for info regarding the famous maker.

If you know any good links or sources, please let

me know. Have you heard of the Lafayette String

Quartet--in-residence quartet at U. of Victoria

in British Columbia? They play on a matched set of

Amati's.

Best to you--Kara

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: : : : Hi,

: : : : I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: : : : I have found an old violin left by a family member

: : : : that contains the following info on the label:

: : : : NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: : : : To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: : : : around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: : : : In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: : : : the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: : : : and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: : : : marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: : : : the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: : : : The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: : : : Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: : : : described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: : : : it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: : : : Regards, Walt.

: : : Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

: : : Tonya

: :

: : Hi Tonya,

: : You're prbably correct. It seems to good to be true.

: : I was looking at the Sotheby's Auction House home

: : page. They will look at the instrument for free

: : and let you know if it has any value. Of course

: : they will chrarge for a full appraisal or certification.

: : I'm about an hour and twenty minutes from their

: : New York Location. I plan on taking the violin

: : to them within the next two weeks or so. Goos

: : or bad, I'll post a message with the outcome.

: : Thanks -- Walt.

: Hi--couldn't help but notice the Amati name.

: I'm searching for info regarding the famous maker.

: If you know any good links or sources, please let

: me know. Have you heard of the Lafayette String

: Quartet--in-residence quartet at U. of Victoria

: in British Columbia? They play on a matched set of

: Amati's.

: Best to you--Kara

I also have a violin that my elderly Italian aunt

now 87 gave me. She played it in high school.

Her parents, my grandparents, were imigrants from

Italy in the late 1800's and had many Italian

friends in the area. My aunt seems to remember

that one of the families gave the instrument to her

when she started to play in grade school so most

likely it came from Italy. The lable under the f

hole says Nicolas Amatus fecit in Cremona 1671 or

1617(it is difficult to tell). The instrument is

in excellent shape for being that old if authentic.

I know it has been in her closet all that time for

I remember it as a child. I would like to know

how I might find out if it is authentic and

what it might be worth if it is. Any info would

be appreciated.

donb@pacifier.com

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: : : : Hi,

: : : : I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: : : : I have found an old violin left by a family member

: : : : that contains the following info on the label:

: : : : NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: : : : To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: : : : around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: : : : In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: : : : the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: : : : and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: : : : marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: : : : the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: : : : The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: : : : Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: : : : described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: : : : it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: : : : Regards, Walt.

: : : Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

: : : Tonya

: :

: : Hi Tonya,

: : You're prbably correct. It seems to good to be true.

: : I was looking at the Sotheby's Auction House home

: : page. They will look at the instrument for free

: : and let you know if it has any value. Of course

: : they will chrarge for a full appraisal or certification.

: : I'm about an hour and twenty minutes from their

: : New York Location. I plan on taking the violin

: : to them within the next two weeks or so. Goos

: : or bad, I'll post a message with the outcome.

: : Thanks -- Walt.

: Hi--couldn't help but notice the Amati name.

: I'm searching for info regarding the famous maker.

: If you know any good links or sources, please let

: me know. Have you heard of the Lafayette String

: Quartet--in-residence quartet at U. of Victoria

: in British Columbia? They play on a matched set of

: Amati's.

: Best to you--Kara

: Hi to you all. I too have found a violin which may possibly be Amati. It is marked "Nicolaus Amatus Cremonen. Hieronymi Fecit. ac Antonij Nepos. 1690". The "90" is written in a latter handwriting. Does anyone know anything about this violin and what it may be worth? Any potential buyers? Pat

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: : : : : Hi,

: : : : : I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: : : : : I have found an old violin left by a family member

: : : : : that contains the following info on the label:

: : : : : NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: : : : : To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: : : : : around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: : : : : In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: : : : : the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: : : : : and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: : : : : marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: : : : : the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: : : : : The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: : : : : Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: : : : : described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: : : : : it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: : : : : Regards, Walt.

: : : : Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

: : : : Tonya

: : :

: : : Hi Tonya,

: : : You're prbably correct. It seems to good to be true.

: : : I was looking at the Sotheby's Auction House home

: : : page. They will look at the instrument for free

: : : and let you know if it has any value. Of course

: : : they will chrarge for a full appraisal or certification.

: : : I'm about an hour and twenty minutes from their

: : : New York Location. I plan on taking the violin

: : : to them within the next two weeks or so. Goos

: : : or bad, I'll post a message with the outcome.

: : : Thanks -- Walt.

: : Hi--couldn't help but notice the Amati name.

: : I'm searching for info regarding the famous maker.

: : If you know any good links or sources, please let

: : me know. Have you heard of the Lafayette String

: : Quartet--in-residence quartet at U. of Victoria

: : in British Columbia? They play on a matched set of

: : Amati's.

: : Best to you--Kara

: I also have a violin that my elderly Italian aunt

: now 87 gave me. She played it in high school.

: Her parents, my grandparents, were imigrants from

: Italy in the late 1800's and had many Italian

: friends in the area. My aunt seems to remember

: that one of the families gave the instrument to her

: when she started to play in grade school so most

: likely it came from Italy. The lable under the f

: hole says Nicolas Amatus fecit in Cremona 1671 or

: 1617(it is difficult to tell). The instrument is

: in excellent shape for being that old if authentic.

: I know it has been in her closet all that time for

: I remember it as a child. I would like to know

: how I might find out if it is authentic and

: what it might be worth if it is. Any info would

: be appreciated.

: donb@pacifier.com

: I have in my possession a violin with a strange inscription.

: "Nicolaus Amatus Cremonen. Hieronymi Fil.ac Antonij Nepos

: Fecit. 1690". The "90" has been written in later in a

: different hand writing and is at an angle like it was

: written after construction with the pen put in through

: the scrolling. Could this be an Amati made for someone

: and after his death dated and sold? Any ideas?

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: : Hi,

: : I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: : I have found an old violin left by a family member

: : that contains the following info on the label:

: : NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

1628 on mine

: : To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: : around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: : In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: : the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: : and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: : marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: : the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: : The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: : Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: : described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: : it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: : Regards, Walt.

: Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

: Tonya

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Have inherited a violin with the inside label of

"Nicolaus Amatus fecit in cremona 1630"

The violin is in case and has bow. The first part

is all in a type and the 16 is in type but the 30 is

in ink. Have tried to research thru internet regarding

best place to go for appraisal or estimate. Am interested

in the viloin as I possibly will give it to a relative.

Would lilke to know more about the violin. Any

help would be appreciated.

JOHN

: Hi,

: I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: I have found an old violin left by a family member

: that contains the following info on the label:

: NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: Regards, Walt.

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Hi, I think that the more I read about these different violins and their inscriptions, I get more confused. I too have a violin that has

Antonius Hieronimus Amati

Cremonem Andre fili 1676. The 16 is in the same type as the other letters, but the 76 is darker and bolder print! I have no idea if this

violin is worth anything. I know that it is at least 40 to 50 years old but whether the year is authentic, I have to admit that I am a pessimist.

I have heard that there are a lot of replicas out there. Can anyone give me any ideas about how I can find out if it has any worth! Thanks Simon

: : : Hi,

: : : I guess I'm another guy who thinks he has a rare violin.

: : : I have found an old violin left by a family member

: : : that contains the following info on the label:

: : : NICOLAS AMATUS FECIT IN CREMONA 1658.

: 1628 on mine

: : : To the right of the label is a circle with a starburst

: : : around it. The circle is divided into 4 quadrents.

: : : In the top left is the letter "R", In the top right is

: : : the letters "SCH.1", at the bottom left is the # "18",

: : : and in the bottom right is the # "80" The bridge is

: : : marked "Paris" The color is right for the Amati family,

: : : the workmanship looks good. The sound is sort of mellow.

: : : The date is accurate for a N. Amatus.

: : : Has anyone ever seen an Amati with a label such as I

: : : described? May be a copy of an Amati. I do know that

: : : it has been in our family for at least 50 years.

: : : Regards, Walt.

: : Take it to a reputable retailer and have him examine it. I'll buy it if it is really an Amati. I'll pay $700,000 for it. Please reply.

: : Tonya

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: I have found a violin with a label inside that reads "Nikolaus Amati" and below that it says that it was made in Germany. Please E-Mail me if you have any information on this violin.

: Ronny O'Brien

: THEOBRIENS@telplus.net

I have the same one. It belonged to my Grandmother that gre wup in Houston Texas it is real old

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Hi everybody.

My name is Guillermo Colombi and I live in Lima Peru. I have a violin with the script "Nicolaus Amatus Cremonen Hieronimin" "Fil AC Antonjie Mepos Fecit 1659" "Copiede"

I want to know about the real value of this violin and if is posible to sell it in any Auction House.

I want to know if is authentic, but how?

Thank for your replies.

Guillermo Colombi

Lima Peru

gcolombi@bigfoot.com

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: : I have found a violin with a label inside that reads "Nikolaus Amati" and below that it says that it was made in Germany. Please E-Mail me if you have any information on this violin.

: : Ronny O'Brien

: : THEOBRIENS@telplus.net

: I have the same one. It belonged to my Grandmother that gre wup in Houston Texas it is real old

I have A violin that is also marked Nicolaus Amatus fecit in Cremona #1645 and would appreciate any body that could

tell me about the person that made it or any thing about it

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: : I have found a violin with a label inside that reads "Nikolaus Amati" and below that it says that it was made in Germany. Please E-Mail me if you have any information on this violin.

: : Ronny O'Brien

: : THEOBRIENS@telplus.net

: I have the same one. It belonged to my Grandmother that gre wup in Houston Texas it is real old

I have A violin that is also marked Nicolaus Amatus fecit in Cremona #1645 and would appreciate any body that could

tell me about the person that made it or any thing about it.

I can be reached at airmstr@telusplanet.net

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: : A student of mine brought in a violin she discovered in a newspaper ad that has identical markings on its label-- Nicolaus Amatus fecit in Cremona 1645. What is the histoy of this/these violins? Email at nelsonsa@martin.luther.edu

: : : I have found a violin with a label inside that reads "Nikolaus Amati" and below that it says that it was made in Germany. Please E-Mail me if you have any information on this violin.

: : : Ronny O'Brien

: : : THEOBRIENS@telplus.net

: : I have the same one. It belonged to my Grandmother that gre wup in Houston Texas it is real old

: I have A violin that is also marked Nicolaus Amatus fecit in Cremona #1645 and would appreciate any body that could

: tell me about the person that made it or any thing about it.

: I can be reached at airmstr@telusplanet.net

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: :

: : : I have found a violin with a label inside that reads "Nikolaus Amati" and below that it says that it was made in Germany. Please E-Mail me if you have any information on this violin.

: : : Ronny O'Brien

: : : THEOBRIENS@telplus.net

: : I have the same one. It belonged to my Grandmother that gre wup in Houston Texas it is real old

: I have A violin that is also marked Nicolaus Amatus fecit in Cremona #1645 and would appreciate any body that could

: tell me about the person that made it or any thing about it

Ms Chris Barnett

chrisbar@wt.com.au

I also have a violin marked Nicolaus Amatus fecit in Cremona 1645 and would appreciate receiving more information on this. My father bought the violin from a person in a city street around 1947. It has the initials 'PA' carved in the side. I would really like to know if the violin is valuable.

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Nicolaus Amatus Fecit in 1657 is what my violin says. I just found this in an attic and am intrigued about what you all have already discovered. Please tell me more about what we seem to have. How can you tell if it is a German made or Italian? ANy direction would be very helpful. Thanks,

Sharon

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I have taken my violin into a dealer and been told that it is a nice violin styled after an Amati (Nicolas) and is worth aprox $600. I was very happy to hear this because I purchased this violin for much less. It has a sweet sound and easy fingering neck. The wood is very pretty but not fresh looking. I have no idea of the age of this violin but I would assume it is from the early early 1900's. Let me know anything that you find out about these violins. I am associated with antique estate sales and have occasion to run across some unusual finds...lutes for instance...something I know nothing about but would like to know more.

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