Jascha Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Posed for Playboy? Well, I guess it doesn't surprise me; some of these female violinists look very good, and I find myself picking up their CDs just because their pretty faces are on the cover. Yeah, I guess looks and talent are seldom found in the same person. What a shame. Good Lord! I just went to the first Linda Brava fan site that popped up on Yahoo and it appears to me that she is the kind of woman that poses for Playboy and plays violin on the side, rather than a woman that plays violin and recently took some unexpected and controversial photo shoots for Playboy, shocking the music world. In answer to your question, Lydia, I think her performances would be more interesting if: A. you were male B. you were watching a video performance, or you actually go to the concert It seems that she is a mediocre violinist whose only fans are men, and men that could get the same satisfaction from her concerts with earplugs. In short, she is a very attractive but probably not very intelligent woman that only plays violin to appear different from other women that pose for Playboy. I could be dead wrong, having never heard a single recording of her's, or even heard OF her until now, but I believe it is possible that my statement is quite accurate nonetheless. Interesting topic, Lydia. [This message has been edited by Jascha (edited 07-10-2000).] [This message has been edited by Jascha (edited 07-10-2000).] [This message has been edited by Jascha (edited 07-10-2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Same thing with Vanessa Mae, I think.... I just got her recording of Bruch's Scottish Fantasy (since I must have ALL recordings of this piece) and I almost puked upon listening to it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuangKaiVun Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Both Linda Brava and Vanessa Mae are very attractive young women to me. I haven't heard Brava, but I have heard Vanessa Mae. I actually prefer her in her techno type stuff as opposed to the straight classical beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadow Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Linda Brava is a cynical marketing exercise from the mid 90s. She was plucked from the second violin section of a Finnish (?) orchestra because she looked good, then dressed in skimpy outfits and sent out to make money for her management. This was not too long after the Vanessa Mae wet T-shirt controversy. I have seen publicity pictures of Brava on stage wearing not much more than a bikini. From the press reactions I saw at the time, no one ever believed she was superstar material violinistically; it was simply a blatant "sex sells" ploy to cash in quickly while a particular fad lasted in particular circles. [This message has been edited by Meadow (edited 07-10-2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viola-mom Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 YUCK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicaelaB Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 The Anna Kournikova of the violin. But Linda Brava's MUCH less talented. And Anna Kournikova's not Steffi Graf. Sorry about the spelling- I don't really follow tennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newby Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 I'm not sure the Anna Kournikova comparison is a very good one. Ms. Kournikova has been ranked in the top 10 best women's tennis players in the world. I think any of us would like to be that good at what we do. [This message has been edited by newby (edited 07-10-2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 I remember Bing Crosby's saying in "White Christmas," "Everybody's got an angle." I suppose if she beefs up interest in the violin, not much harm could be done. Maybe other people who like to take their clothes off will want to learn to play the violin, too--and then they'll go to Tower Records to buy CD's and actually come across some very good players by accident. TR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Leong Posted July 11, 2000 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 Okay, someone clue me in: What's so great about Linda Brava? (Other than the fact that she evidently posed for Playboy, or something along those lines.) I listened to her new recital disc, at Tower Records, yesterday, and was thoroughly unimpressed. I was not appalled, though. If she had been appalling, the performances might at least have been interesting. Where does she come from? Why does she have a recording contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krystian Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 For me Vanessa Mae is an advanced student and Linda Brava is an upper-intermediate. ....K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Leong Posted July 11, 2000 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 No, Vanessa-Mae plays distinctively enough that she makes an impression, even if it's not always a good one. Linda Brava sounds like a highly mediocre student, bereft of even solid technical abilities. Vanessa-Mae at least has serviceable technique. Vanessa-Mae is able to play her own arrangements with flair, and does well enough in lightweight fare like her "China Girl" album, even though she lacks a feel for the classical idiom and consequently doesn't play the traditional works well. If she'd just stop recording the traditional repertoire, she'd be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 As long as they don't take their clothes off IN Tower Records.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuangKaiVun Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 . . . I'd be the FIRST ONE THERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganini-Oldie Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 HuangKaiVun at Tower: Can you lift your violin and bow arm a *little* higher please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscha Posted October 13, 2000 Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 I just heard her recording. While I was relatively umimpressed overall, she was not as terrible as some of you have stated. Her tone is pleasant enough, but monochromatic (same vibrato more or less all the time). The pacing is a bit sedate (except the Grieg sonata). The Kreisler piece had some (not enough, though) sense of understanding of the idiom. Overall, she is a capable player, but not the soloist calibre. At least she seems versatile enough to earn living doing all kinds of non-musical things as well, according to the liner note. Toscha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Leong Posted October 13, 2000 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 Listening to Brava, I don't get a sense that she's really entirely in command of the instrument. There are intonation slips in the recording, for instance, and other faults that would be well within the bounds of what one could excuse in a live recital, but seem much more unforgiveable in the light of a studio recording where the performer gets multiple takes to do it right. (There's certainly nothing there that would prevent her from being a competent regional orchestra player, though -- as she was earlier in her career. But I still think I've heard better recital performances out of conservatory students.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_W Posted October 13, 2000 Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 Thanks to Toscha, as always, for a well-reasoned analysis of a performer's sound. It is not easy to separate the performer from the performance. Maybe we need some CD's of classical repertoire to be published anonymously for a fair review! But let's turn it around: What if Mutter or Bell decided to perform completely nude (in an otherwise standard setting)? Would the resulting media frenzy seriously color the purely musical opinions of reviewers? Mark_W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Leong Posted October 13, 2000 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 Mutter caused quite a controversy when she first appeared in her strapless gowns, years ago. The press has always commented on her looks, and it is no doubt part of her superstardom in Germany. However, she was also Karajan's protege, and the rest of the world has always recognized that she would deserve to be in the top rank of contemporary soloists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K545 Posted October 13, 2000 Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 I think that Mark_W has made a very important suggestion. If implemented, it would go a long way toward relieving the tedium of orchestral concerts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuinnessHunter Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Yeah but then would we end up with a naked Itzhak??? William quote: Originally posted by K545: I think that Mark_W has made a very important suggestion. If implemented, it would go a long way toward relieving the tedium of orchestral concerts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 quote: Originally posted by GuinnessHunter: Yeah but then would we end up with a naked Itzhak??? William Ah, he's such a teddy-bear. You guys have no idea what women find attractive. Stacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Stacy, I'm with you 100%. Perlman looks so very kind and humorous. Definitely a warm presence his would be to wake up next to. Again, I sure wish our Tower Records here in Richmond would allow us to listen to classical CD's before purchasing. But, alas, they don't. But, more to the point, I purchased a CD the other day for our faculty country/western show that will happen in April, 2001. One of the faculty members said she'd like to sing "I Hope You Dance" (or something like that) recorded by a leigh-Ann (or Lee Ann?) person. So, I bought said CD so I could study the chord structure of the song to accompany the faculty member. Anyway: (and this is off-topic) What amazed me was when I played the CD in my computer, there were all these very, very cool options, such as watching videos of the vocalist, videos of the director, photographic essays0--things like that. Again, the techno-age caught me by surprise and delighted me. And my point: Is this occurring in classical CD's??????? If so, wow!!! Which ones!!! I'd love to see little video clips of various soloists in concert--or read little interviews with them--or look at their photographic essays. It sure sounds like something Leila Josefowicz's producers would have done--but I no longer own her CD's so I can't check that out. (That's a long, long story of loss that I won't get into here because I've digressed too far afield already.) Anyway, anyone out there know whether classical CD's are currently showing videos and all that jazz? Curious, Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Leong Posted October 14, 2000 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Check out Deutsche Grammophon's CD-Pluscore. http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/cdpluscore/ It lets you listen to the music while the score goes past, among a number of other things. Gil Shaham's recording of the Four Seasons (also on the DG label) includes a video clip. Some of Silva's film score compendiums ("Warriors of the Silver Screen", etc.) come with bonus material, like background info and so forth, on the CD-ROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystal Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Personally, I think Vanessa Mae is a much better player than Linda Brava. Although I think that both of these women are much more known for the interesting angle they hold their violins at when they're squatting down with their legs 10 ft apart in leather pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mu0n Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Lydia, does this program uses its own proprietary file format? (That's what I think) I'm still searching for a program that can put sounds uttered in a microphone on a partition. So far, I've found a singing-exercise program that only lets you sing the notes it imposes on you. The step between this and what I want is very small, yet I haven't found such a software. If this persists, I'll code my own. -Mu0n Update: well nevermind about my first question, I just saw it uses midi. There's nothing new here, I use Noteworthy to do the same thing all the time. [This message has been edited by Mu0n (edited 10-14-2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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