Karla Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Quote: First problem is that we do not know if Karla made any bad purchases before acquiring this instrument on ebay or whether she purchased other instruments that were returned as unsatisfactory. The cost of bad purchases (violins set aside that are unsatisfactory and cannot be returned) and the costs of return shipment ($25-$50) of each on-approval instruments must be added to the $650 purchase price. We do not know if that is the case or not. Let me help you with that. The answer is NO I had not made any other bad purchases. The total cost of the violin was 475 and that included shipping which was done very well. Quote: Appraisals are typically made for twice the retail value THAT A VIOLIN SHOP can get for insurance purposes. So this $1,400 to $4,000 violin is realistically a $750 to $2000 violin IN A VIOLIN SHOP. An individual cannot get these prices because of the limitations with selling a single instrument out of ones house. Working through a violin shop requires paying a commission of between 15 and 50%. So the violin, appraised at $1,400, that can realistically be retailed for $750, will net the owner $630 or so if and when it sells. I don't get how this point helps your argument. So I get 630 when I sell when I spent 750, OR I could go and spend 3K and sell for 630. And that is better how? Quote: Appraisals are almost meaningless to players because the value of the instrument is established not on tone but the structural integrity of the instrument and its pedigree. This is EXACTLY why I choose to buy from an Ebay seller that I trust. The cool thing about Jesse's violins is that he has them played by some of his symphony player friends and gets them tonally described. Since these players have no interest in the sell the descriptions are generally right on. Quote: The real test of claims such as Karla’s would be if great deals can be had by her with consistency—or is the good buy just luck and will be followed by bad purchases. I would be on ebay day and night if I thought I could buy $4000 violins for $650. I am supremely confident that I could get the same type of bargin from this seller again and again. That said I probably will not as it is and always has been my intention to purchase an American made instrument from the local instument show. Quote: Like all business sectors, violin shops vary in price and integrity. When I upgrade my instrument I will go to a Midwestern violin shop, probably in MI, that has 200 or so violins and compare and contrast a dozen instruments in my price range. I will take my current instrument to compare them with as a control for room acoustics. When I leave the store I will know that I have purchased an excellent SOUNDING instrument for the money, and that no repairs will be necessary, probably not even strings. I will offer the dealer 90 percent of the asking price and they will probably accept my offer. This is how a player should buy a violin. You see I accept that what you do to purchase a violin is okay. I shall not be so pompus as to suggest that what I do is how "a player should buy a violin" I am merely suggesting that ebay is not all bad. One can still find decent bargins on it if they use common sense and their brains. Many people do not have this ability and for them the violin stores will always exist. I too pay more than I should for many things for the convinence of the customer service and the instant gratification. That is an okay way to shop too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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