apartmentluthier Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=7310530734 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennYorkPA Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Isn't it charming to see such displays of naivete and optimism. So generous with the photography also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaco Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 thanks for the link and the laughs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestramusica Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Its almost tempting me to hop in the car, and go some 6 hours to Hugoton just to see this wonder! NOT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japes Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 How about this one - made by the poor, forgotten son Antonio kept locked in the cellar. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=7308132500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 ## Igor## Stratavarious? It's alive!!! Someone did create a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janabanana Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Gosh. You mean I shouldn't bid? After all, his feedback is unprecedented! Jana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestramusica Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 well, I think that what's alive on the Igor thing-y is the appearant mold covering it. And since when does a huge crack down the back indicate "good solid condition"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trishmorris1 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 OMG! Keep them coming! This is really livening up an otherwise very boring and very tedious workday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuckers Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 And the maker was obsessed with butts too . . . What's it Violin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geigen Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 He is paying the listing fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestramusica Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 while definitely STRANGELY shaped, I would hesitate to call this one "butt-ugly" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestramusica Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...%3AIT&rd=1I see they pulled it and relisted it. Still a bit high for a starting bid I think, but perhaps more realistic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elidatrading Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 "A bit high"???! I don't think i'd give $200 for it. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestramusica Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 I was being charitable because my Kriner- same school, same era, equal print given it it books of violinmakers ,was just valued at $4K. AND THATS COMPLETELY RESTORED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elidatrading Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Yes, but what is the betting that the violin in the auction is actually a 19th century german trade job? Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestramusica Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 I don't know what to think- Experts out there? Is it more likely that: A) a dealer or even the factory/shop (even 100 years ago?) would choose to falsify by putting in a makers label that no-one has heard of outside of 1 sentence in a reference book, a modern-day know-nothing will simply quote the label (false)that's there, not KNOWING that no-one has ever heard of this maker in the violin world, and thinking it must be valuable because it SAYS it's 200+ years old. OR C) That it could be an reasonably OK fiddle that is what the label says it is and no more. (I may have overlapped a bit- but the scenarios could be several here, I admit.) I lived in Wichita KS froom age 3 to age 11, and that is where I got my start in violin, BUT, Wichita is a very large city, with several college/University campuses located there. I interviewed for a teaching position in Hugoton Kansas some 25 years ago, and found it to be a very small, rural town with the main industries being farming and natural gas/ petroleum wells/refineries. I think it is very likely that its a "grampa's attic" type find, and someone is trying to save the farm by selling a family heirloom. However, It would seem likely that they could take it to Wichita or possibly Tulsa to get it appraised by a few experts before embarassing oneself like this guy seems to have. When I think of the stupid things that have been told me about violins by unknowledgeable people as absolute truth over the years, I can very well accept the idea that someone THINKS its a national treasure based on the fact it was in the family for maybe 100 years. So- can we get some theories from the expert Appraisers? Of course, it would help if there was more than 1 out of focus photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Darnton Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Looks like $200 to me. You're trying to use logic in this, and that's not how to appraise a violin. The best thing to do is take a name out of a book with a one-line write-up. Where if it said "Stradivari" you wouldn't believe it, with an obscure name you might. . . and you did. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestramusica Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 OK-maybe to some degree you caught me. So I was willing to think it MIGHT be what it says. IF by some MINUTE chance it IS what it says it is, THEN I could see it being equal to my own violin. I was never willing to pay either starting bid for such an unknown quantity myself, just noting that by dropping the starting bid by such a large percentage, the seller MIGHT actually get one or two bids, and it MIGHT end up being worth $3-5K, although the $50K was totally an insane hope with no certification and provenance and only 1 photo. Personally, I could not justify myself spending more than $200 either, but I recognize that some people CAN and do justify that kind of "gamble" (echos of an earlier discussion) regularly. Thanks for the discussion- I love bouncing things like this off each other. And my former English teachers would deplore my run-on sentence, but so what- I'm tired. Norma in Denver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_W Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Off topic I guess, but Scottish fiddler Alasdair Fraser currently plays a Fichtl, which he acquired a couple years ago (his previous main instrument was a Gusset). It can be heard on his recent release "Fire and Grace". He gets a wonderful sound from it; I'd love to have an instrument that has the overtones that this one does. -Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 it's nice to know that people still dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_W Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Quote: it's nice to know that people still dream. Maybe I should add that I don't think there's any chance that the eBay "Fichtl" is what it claims to be; even taking into account the poor picture I can't convince myself that it bears any resemblance to Alasdair's fiddle. -Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korngold Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Quote: it's nice to know that people still dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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