toc Posted December 27, 2004 Report Posted December 27, 2004 Six weeks ago, I had a new "winter" bridge put on my fiddle by a highly respected local violin shop. I am a fiddler who tends to play pretty hard. I'd played it for a couple weeks and it sounded just great. The other night (luckily at home rather than at a gig) I noticed the fiddle kept going out of tune, which is unusual for my instrument. Then, suddenly, the damned bridge snapped clean in half lengthwise. Stupid question, perhaps, but any idea how this could happen? And for those of you who do repairs: Would I be within my rights to ask the repairman, who has a good reputation in town, to replace the bridge for free?
fiddler59 Posted December 27, 2004 Report Posted December 27, 2004 It sounds like the bridge was leaning to me. If not I think I might ask for another bridge. fiddler
toc Posted December 27, 2004 Author Report Posted December 27, 2004 I don't have the best eyesight, but it didn't look to be leaning....
Jimbow Posted December 27, 2004 Report Posted December 27, 2004 Re: Bridge accident...what happened? Then, suddenly, the damned bridge snapped clean in half lengthwise. Please describe in more detail what you are describing as "lengthwise" and exactly where. Also, was bridge 90 degree upright before it failed? (I would assume it was, however if it was tilting, that would clearly account for it going out of tune.) Any visual evidence of an old, partial crack at the break? If it was a treated bridge, an old crack might show. What harm could it do to ask him politely to cut a new bridge realizing he might have a logical explanation and decline? You are very lucky it happened at home! Jimbow
dogmageek Posted December 28, 2004 Report Posted December 28, 2004 toc: I agree with Jimbow. I never have had a bridge fail under any circumstance ever. Even a leaning one or a warped one, both of which I have had a few of. A shock to the violin at the bridge, might crack the bridge, but would crack the top too. I think you are within your rights to ask for a replacement bridge. -dogma
Jacob Posted December 28, 2004 Report Posted December 28, 2004 If the tread on the tailgut started to strip, the pitch will drop, requiring constant re-tuning which can very likely cause the bridge to bend and eventually break. I've seen this happen on more than one occasion, especially in instances where the string angle over the bridge is overly acute.
apartmentluthier Posted December 28, 2004 Report Posted December 28, 2004 This also recently happened to me. I had finished a pegbox repair for a friend, and he had kept all the fittings at home in another case. I set it up with what fittings I had laying around, including an old bridge that matched up pretty well. I strung it up just so he could test the fit of the pegs. He came to pick it up, and while he was tuning, the old bridge snapped in half horizontally. Made us both jump. I had assumed it was because the bridge was just old and dried out.
toc Posted December 28, 2004 Author Report Posted December 28, 2004 I will call the guy tomorrow and report back...thanks, all!
Terry Maurice Posted December 28, 2004 Report Posted December 28, 2004 You should probably have your soundpost checked as well. A sudden collapse of the bridge can cause the post to shift, as the tension on the top is released. Terry
Oded Kishony Posted December 28, 2004 Report Posted December 28, 2004 I don't see how you could hold the repairman responsible for a bridge that cracked in half *6 weeks* after it was installed. Jacob's explanation is the most likely one, in my opinion. At best, I think you could beg for some pity at the cost of another bridge and ask for a discount, but personally, I don't think he bears any responsibility. Oded
toc Posted December 29, 2004 Author Report Posted December 29, 2004 UPDATE: Saw the luthier today. He says he thinks I wasn't cautious in "pulling back" the bridge before each tuning; he says my current setup is the most sensitive I've had and that I need to be more careful with it. (Imagine...telling a fiddler who plays old-time music to "be careful...") Denouement: He offered to replace the bridge free of charge, since he was the one who installed it six weeks or so ago. I was not going to ask him to do this. I think this is a very nice gesture and will continue to speak highly of his shop.
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