Mr.Scratchy Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 So, who is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Strung Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 It would have to be a toss-up between Natalie MacMaster and Donnell Leahy. Of course, they are the two I have had the most experience with. I'm sure there are many others out there who are excellent (Brenda Stubbert, Jerry Holland, Mark O'Conner) but I haven't had the chance to hear them. So, from what I have heard, the two fiddler's I mentioned would have to be my favourites, based on style, energy, and overall presentation of their music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Dave Swarbrick(Fairport Convention),Ashley McIssaac,and Robin Williamson(Incredible String Band). For some reason,these fiddlers seem able to get to the guts of the melancoly celtic muse. Oh, and lets not forget Don Messer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scratchy Posted June 2, 2000 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 As you might guess from my pseudonym (Mr.Scratchy) that I like my fiddlers to have a fair amount of "Grit". I like Tommy Jarrell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An_individual Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Are there any recordings of these fiddlers you all have mentioned?- if so could you recommend some? I've been listening to Violinist only since I can remember.These would be a refreshing change. Thanks. Lauren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scratchy Posted June 2, 2000 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Lauren - I was being rather broad when I asked who your favorite "fiddler" is....there are many many different kinds of fiddle music from Irish, Scottish, Hungarian, Scandinavian, Bluegrass, Jazz, Cape Breton, Old-time (my personal preference although I learned on Irish stuff and it comes purdy darn naturally too), Klezmer, and, uh, well, lots of others I'm sure. Do you have a preference? If one style grabs you more than the others I'm sure people on this bb can steer you in an appropriate direction. Here's something to try: go to Amazon's website and do a search in the music section for albums that have "fiddle" in their titles. You'll get a good sampling of titles and then you can listen to sound samples of different CDs! Just a thought - let us know what kind of fiddling you'd like to hear more of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent_Hill Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Lessee--For bluegrass, I'd have to say Kenny Baker. For cajun, I love Michael Doucet. There are a couple of tremendous Greek violinists from the 30's and 40's, Ogdhondakis and Dimitrius Semsis, whose work staggers me. Alicia Svigals makes me feel grateful for the existence of the violin whenever I listen to her Klezmer collection, _Fidl_, from a couple of years ago. The two violinists for Muzsikas, Laszlo Porteleki and Mihaly Sipos, are pretty remarkable. Then, there's the utterly astonishing improvisatory work of Kemani Cemal Cinarh, a Turkish Roma violinist whose work has been recorded on _Sulukule_. The guys in Taraf de Haiduks are no slouches either. Most of the musicians I've mentioned aren't "fiddlers" in the sense we tend to use it--they're all very schooled musicians playing with advanced technique--but they're definitely not working within the Western art music tradition. I've seen the expression "folk violin" used in connection with Romanian "fiddle" music, so if you prefer that term, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 To Mr. Scratchy (and anyone else so inclined to answer): I don't know anything about fiddling other than my family wishes that I'd learn fiddling as opposed to classical violin. But time is limited--and I'll stick with classical violin for now. At least till I retire. Then, maybe, I can venture into fiddling. All that said: Would you venture a few distinctive features of the different fiddling styles you've mentioned? Are there traits in each that would help the uninitiated, like myself, identify one from the other? It actually would make an interesting bit of writing and reading to try to distinguish classical violin playing from each of the fiddling styles--what are the broad general features that group classical violin playing together, but distinctive features that make it distinctively classical? (Should I introduce a new topic here, or is it ok just to tag this subtopic on to the fiddling topic? I'm really curious about what make Cape Breton "Cape Breton," for instance, because that stylf of fiddling has been mentioned quite a few times on the Fingerboard. Its name is lovely: "Cape Breton." I would hope that it has lovely distinctive features. Curious, Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Just being a beginner myself, I don't really know the difference in the styles so far as playing it, but I sure can hear the difference. Cape Breton pretty much = Scottish. I've heard it said that Scottish fiddlers would come to Cape Breton to rediscover their lost art of fiddling. I don't really think about dancing much to this style but I love to listen to it. It has a characteristic up-bow sound to it that's easy to pick out. Bluegrass/So. Appalachian is what I grew up with. It derived from Scottish/Irish since the mountain & piedmont areas are where the Scots migrated after they left Ireland. It is maybe 300 years removed from Scottish fiddling and now can have that twangy sound and some songs seem to completely be in double-stops. You either dance to it or cry to it. And it has wonderful themes like "Miss Cindy's drawers are hanging on the line" (or you make up your own). I don't know if you'll see Klezmer much out of the Northeast. It's easy to find a band playing at a shul maybe twice a year. But I don't have the culture/feeling for it to make it mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougH Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Bonnie Rideout. I've never heard MacMaster, but JUST missed one of her performances the other day! RATS! Could of had more fun! DougH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanigumi Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Vassar Clements, Eddie South, Stephen Grappelli, Stuff Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddle-D-Dee Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 I do like Natalie McMaster's playing, I just can't stand to watch her live. It's like watching a human jumping bean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarawa1943 Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Cape Breton fiddler Carl MacKenzie is my favorite. Cape Breton fiddling is what Scottish fiddling used to be before the "Clearances". When The Scottish were removed from there land by the British and relocated all over the world, Cape Breton became a Scottish cultural stronghold (Gaelic language, customs, music and dance) due to it's isolation from the outside world. The music in Scotland became "classicalized" (is this even a word?) because the traditional music was banned. I got this information from some fairly reliable sources...in Cape Breton, of course. george [This message has been edited by george behary (edited 06-02-2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Bigler Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Sean Keane (Chieftains),Frankie Gavin (De Dannan), Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh (Altan) for traditional irish fiddle playing at it's best and Eileen Ivers who's last album "Crossing the bridge" redefines the term "fiddling" for me. Greetings, André Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 This month my favorite is Martin Hayes. But I still like Vassar Clements, Tommy Peoples, Lowe Stokes, Kevin Burke, the list goes on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlefaddle Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Mary Lea of Yankee ingenuity, Don't forget Jay Unger of Ashokan Joe Venutti Bob Wills Elka Baker <Scottish-American Champ James Kelly Jean Carrigean Ruthie Dornfield Nat Hewitt of Reckless Abandon Art Galbraith [This message has been edited by fiddlefaddle (edited 06-02-2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscha Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 I am not into country fiddling, but I love gypsy violinists. Among those I like are: Sandor and Roby Lakatos Georges Boulanger Grigoras Dinicu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 For anyone interested in contempory old-time fiddling (oxymoron?), I strongly recommend the recordings of Bruce Molsky; for example, his "Lost Boy" CD. He is a fantastic fiddler, and a great guitarist, banjo player, and singer as well. For Irish, my current favorite is Kevin Burke. I have always loved his stuff, and just heard him in a solo concert setting a few weeks ago. Awesome! He has a new-ish live recording out that is quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheree Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Martie Seidel from the Dixie Chicks! And Mark O'Conner, especially when he teams up with my all-time favorite musician in the world, James Taylor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackPorch Posted June 3, 2000 Report Share Posted June 3, 2000 Bob Wills - Not even the best fiddler in his own band but invented a style of music, Western Swing. Ramona Jones - Plays very simple, and I love that about her. (Yes Grandpa Jones' wife) But I've only been able to hear a few pieces. Buddy Spicher - Backup Nashville musician that played awesome. (Ray Price type backup) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarawa1943 Posted June 3, 2000 Report Share Posted June 3, 2000 Another great fiddler is Duane Cote' of Cape Breton. Has anyone ever heard him play? totally awesome. george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarnath Posted June 3, 2000 Report Share Posted June 3, 2000 Alright backporch, u're my kinda fiddler. Personally, though, I prefer Johnny Gimble and Bobby Hicks for the most refined Western Swing. For bluegrass, you really can't beat Aubrey Haney nowadays, but I'm sentimentally attached to Scotty Stoneman. Stephane Grapelli is the reigning king of swing. Jascha Heifetz and Isaac Stern are competing for the place of my favorite classical fiddler. I'm gonna finally get a chance to hear Natalie MacMaster at Interlochen, but I hear she's the best at Cape Breton. I believe that the most well-rounded style-wise violinist in the world is Mark O'Connor. The only reason he's not my favorite is because he decided to completely forget what : eople:: like to hear and now just plays things only he would want to play (I remember me taking a few of his caprices to my teacher and, playing them for me, him asking "What's the point, its all the same"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted June 3, 2000 Report Share Posted June 3, 2000 I like Natalie MacMaster. I missed a recent chance to see her live as I was unaware she was going to be in town, but a friend went and said the whole audience was ready to get up and dance. I saw her interviewed once and she explained that the most obvious difference between her style of fiddling and Irish or Scottish it the ornamentation. Canadian fiddling has more. Don Messer is another one I like as well, and still recall watching his TV show. As for Ashley McIsaac...he's good, but I won't buy his music after his new year's eve concert and the derogatory comments he made. That guy needs a serious attitude ajustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie the Fiddler Posted June 3, 2000 Report Share Posted June 3, 2000 One of the great ones has been overlooked. Chubby Wise. Bluegrass and country of course, but he also put out two or three albums of thirties and forties pop/swing tunes. He was very talented and very creative. Cheers. Charlie the Fiddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry Posted June 4, 2000 Report Share Posted June 4, 2000 Hey BackPorch, I agree with you! Bob Wills had one of the best bands ever. I do really love Mr. Johnny Gimble too. For swing fiddle, these two guys are tops. For bluegrass, I have to pick Kenny Baker. But also Buddy Spiker has such a sweet fiddle when he plays behind Crystle Gayle. Oh....so many greats out there.!!!!! SHERRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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