musigal Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 big question: how many here start a note witht their bow already resting on the string? and who prefers to start above the string? i'm having a wealth of conflicting information. is it one of those 'personal preference' deals? ~el confusedus musigalus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concertA Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Since no one has ventured anything... I would say for me it depends on the note--type of note called for in the music, where in the music it is... Like in my (dreaded) recital piece-in the first movement, which is slow and very legato, I am starting on the string with the first note of the piece. In the second movement-after the long ending note of the first movement-I am lifting for a new downbow and coming onto the string. This is how my teacher is having me practice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iupviolin Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 You should almost ALWAYS start with the bow on the string. In orchestra playing you MUST start from the string (very few exceptions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_A Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 It's sort of like the shoulder rest or no shoulder rest issue -- you'll get a lot of different opinions. I do think that the majority opinion is to start from the string though -- it's safer and more predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen redrobe Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 If you start Bazzini's "Dance of the goblins" on the string, you'll have BIG problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deStaunton Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Pablo Casals said " hit the note on the head, not on the stomach." In other words,start a note with decisiveness,not flaccidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen redrobe Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 " hit the note on the head, not on the stomach." Yes, but it is possible to do that both on and off the string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concertA Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 I was thinking of specific situations or bowings, not in general. For instance a bunch of fast downbows in a row-you have to lift and start the next note from off the string and hope you don't crash and bounce. Or...like the sautille bowing in Csardas, if it's fast enough it gets that natural bounce to it, in a controlled manner, off the string-so, in effect, each consecutive note is starting off the bounce of the previous one. Or a ricochet bowing-that one bounces, too. But I guess the difference I'm talking about is controlled springing/bouncing vs. just starting a general note. Maybe I'm thinking about it from the angle of the bowing required by the piece....and it appears that I'm rambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthss Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Paraphrasing Stephen's (and others) and adding my own miniscule addition: One can start both on and off the string depending on the piece but be ready with good form to start playing. What I think should really be avoided is the "artsy" and often "for show" gestures with the bow just before striking the string that can "flub" the entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thevi_Olin Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 "If you start Bazzini's "Dance of the goblins" on the string, you'll have BIG problems " No matter how I start the 'Dance', its a problem... Maybe in the next lustrum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganiniest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 How do you start a note? hum, To Whom It May Concern. Aps! Pag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgirl Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 I think it personally depends on a lot of things. 1.It could depend on what kind of note your playing. If its a soft legato note then start on the string. If its a quick thrown bow, start above the string. 2.It also depends on what kind of palyere you are. If your more wild, start above the string. If not, start on. It all depends on you, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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