flaco Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Panormo was a late 18th century maker who worked in Dublin. Even though he lived in Dublin he was of Italian heritage, so auctions and dealers categorize his work as 'Italian'. Goffriller and Techler were non-Italians who worked in Venice and Rome, repectively. Their work is also classified by the same experts as being 'Italian'. You can't have this both ways. What's the logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Darnton Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 No, it's not both ways: the rule is if a maker has any connection to Italy at all, no matter how weak, he gets to be called (and priced) Italian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepBlue Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 I can confirm Michael's point. I have an Alberto Blanchi violin. Blanchi was French and lived in Nice. However, his name sounds Italian and Nice is near the Italian border. As far as I know, these are his only connections to Italy. These characteristics were apparently enough for one auction house to list one of his violins as "Franco-Italian." This is of course fine by me since I own one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubbi2 Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Just to add a little humor to the mix, the following makers, although Italian, would have been classified as Italian even if they came from Canada: Romolo Parmegiani Antonio Pasta Fausto Cacciatori Alfredo Primavera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen redrobe Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Well said Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgeezer Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 I wonder what the price would be for the few remaining violins from the estate of the late Michaelangelo Darntoni ? Italian + Dead = $$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLaBonne Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Not to mention Davidde Palma. (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shantinik Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 If you ever get to Cremona, check out the work of Aldo Monacelli. Nice guy, but be prepared for the thickest German accent you've ever heard. Doesn't matter, though -- he sells mostly to the Japanese. (Note: I don't know what kind of accent he has in Japanese.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen redrobe Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lversola Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Redrobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillW Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Nice did not actually become part of France until 1860. Before that it was part of the primarily Italian kingdom of Savoy. Nice was ceded to France as part of the arrangements that resulted in a united Italy, which included most of Savoy--in fact, the King of Savoy, Victor Emmanuel II, became King of Italy. Nice again became Italian briefly in 1940--during Alberto Blanchi's lifetime--when Mussolini profited from the fall of France by annexing it, but it went back to France after WWII. If I'm not mistaken, the population of Nice, although primarily French-speaking, included a substantial Italian-speaking minority and the family of Alberto Blanchi (or Bianchi, as it would be spelled in Italian) may have belonged to that minority. So it may not be such a stretch to refer to Alberto Blanchi as "Franco-Italian." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shantinik Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 "I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Redrobe." For once, I do, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 How about "Platner", "Bisiach*" and "Schwarz" for three more classic Italian names!.....and "Castineri" for a Frenchman! Omo. (* I guess this is a Northern Italian form, but it does have a foreign ring about it, what?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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