Cedar Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 No its not the only way, it is just the fastest and most assured of success way. Thinking through this, at some point every new technique was self-taught by the person who came up with the technique. So it is possible to replicate all of the discoveries by oneself. The problem is the time to do this, especially the time spent exploring blind alleys. Teaching keeps you from having to re-invent the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robheys Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 With all due respect Steve, I think you are overreacting a tad here, but to take up the gauntlet. Yes, I have no doubt that Sammonns was a genius and I also have no doubt that the majority of Maestroneters, myself included are not, which is why I will continue to go to a violin teacher for my lessons and not a shoemaker, and also why I would encourage others to do the same. However, I was reacting to this:- "A completely self-taught player will never, ever learn how to use to bow to produce a real violin sound." That statement is just as incorrect as saying "anybody can teach themselves to produce a real violin sound" Of course producing a "real violin sound" is only one small part of making great music on the violin. And just to get really pedantic, learning from interaction with others is not being taught. If you want to be "taught" the first requirement is to find a teacher. If you want to "learn", the only requirements are an open mind and the desire to learn (you might of course only learn your own limits this way:-). Best regards Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLaBonne Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 From his previous posts I gather that K544 speaks from actual encounters with genuinely self-taught players. I haven't encountered any of those myself, so I defer to his experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K544 Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Yes. They are all left hand. They look at you blankly when you say that all the music is made with the right hand. And most of them are engineers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjm Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 I grew up in a small town and had limited instruction from a teacher with a limited understanding(see"not real violin sound").By listening to recordings, and a hell of a lot of time fiddle under chin, I was able to learn to play the violin pretty decently. I would like to think that with access to recordings and an instrument, a person can have teachers like Perlman , Zuckerman,etc. Of course this is far from ideal, but I must respond to the "real violin sound"thing. Forgive me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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