Paganiniest Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 I was wondering who is your favorite conductor of all times? I know they are tough to love but. I have been watching lately the Art of Conducting, both volumes, and several names come to mind, namely Celibidache, Munch. Just curious Pag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLaBonne Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 Furtwangler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiolmattias Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 Celibidache and a maybe favorite if he continue in this direction Esa-Pekka Salonen. But I may be a bit blind since both of them worked here for several years fiolmattias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy jane Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 Now, Carlos Kleiber. Then, Bruno Walter. For opera, Tullio Seraphin. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabal Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 All conductors should be rounded up and jailed for crimes against humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLaBonne Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 Q. What's the difference between a bull and an orchestra? A. The bull has the horns in front and the ***hole in back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxviolin Posted December 10, 2002 Report Share Posted December 10, 2002 How to cook a conductor: The ingredients: 1 conductor or two assistant conductors (avoid conductors laureate- they're too old and tough), 2 large cloves of garlic, 1 tub lard or vegetable shortening, 1 keg cheap wine, 2 lbs assorted vegetables, and 4 lbs tofu. Upon capture, remove the tail and horns. Carefully separate the large ego and refrigerate for the sauce. Discard any batons, scores, pencils, etc. Clean the conductor as you would a squid. After removing the slime and the inner organs (mostly large intestines), tenderize it on a rock witha strong pounding motion. Marinate it in a bathtub using half a keg of cheap wine. (No point in wasting the good stuff). Exception: conductors from France or Italy. Also, Canadian, German, and Australian conductors tend to have a beery aroma. Use your own discretion when choosing how to marinate them. When sufficiently soaked, remove the outside clothing and rub the complete surface area with garlic. Apply all of the lard over the whole body. Place in a pan with the vegetables surrounding it. Cover and cook on high until lightly flamed. When done, invite all members of the orchestra over for dinner and serve with the remaining wine. Sauce: combine the ego, seasonings, and lots of ketchup in a blender and puree until liquified. Heat and serve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilitaryTime Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Von Karajan with Berlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganiniest Posted December 11, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 You know, is so interesting to watch and listen to all these guys. To me each one has virtues and faults. Personally I am fascinated with Celibidache. I just learned he actually had 4 doctorates, spoke about 30 languages, some sort of scientist, gipsy and philosopher. Although I feel his Beethoven is almost too tight for my taste. Seems like he got better as he got older. I love Furtwangler, particularly his sense of inaccurate conducting which really made you listen to each other. Then von Karajan, well, actually I have changed my mind about him . I still think that Kemplerer's Beethoven was superb, another one of those rhythmically inaccurate conductors. What an era, and is it all gone? I have not seen or heard much from Esa-Pekka-Salonen. I am curious to know more about him. Anyhow, this Celibidache was really something. Some of the things he said, such as when somebody asked him about von Karajan, he said, yes, he appeals to the masses like Coca Cola Pag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hk1997 Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Cristoph Eschenbach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiolmattias Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 I love what Menuhin said about Karajan, that he were like a beautiful horse in a show - always posing A wonderful concerto recording by Salonen is the Sibelius/Nielsen with Lin (Sony - #44548). Lin plays well and Esa-Pekka plays perfect, such details like the basson in the first(?) tutti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscha Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 It is totally depending on the repertoire. I cannot think of any conductors who can be convincing in all range of repertoires. T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concerto Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 I'm not see this firm but nobody can beat Furtwaengler at Beethoven-,Wagner-, Brahms's conducting. He's also chief conductor of both Berliner and Wiener Philhamoniker. It said to much.. And if you know how fascinated German about him you can understand it. Karajan's too sophisticated so that if you've heard him for a long time you will find his art isn't wonderful like his legendary. Toscanini and Solti were superb but I've never found that they were superb Beethoven's conductors. It's too sad because Beethoven's the best Symphonien writer. Carlos Kleiber is superb too, his art is on the same ( not 100%) way like Toscanini. He has made only about 15-20 recordings ( 1973-now ). That's gentleman. Walter, Boehme, Celibache, Wand, Bernstein..are among them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Carlos Kleiber, Furtwangler, Vaclav Talich, Mravinsky, Kurt Sanderling, Boulez, Bohm, Karajan, Munch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuminatus Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Dead conductors Herbert von Karajan and either BPO or VPO seem to be a good combination Furtwangler with BPO is also good. I really like his recordings of Schubert's symphonies. Everyone says Toscanini was a great conductor and probably he was, but thanks to the awful acoustic systems, I have never found his recordings apealing. Living Carlos Kleiber is my favourite conductor now. He is absolutely the best when it comes to waltz! I like his recordings of operas. Claudio Abbado is very good. Its sad that he doesn't conduct BPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorno Giovanna Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I know nothing about conducting but there is one man that can't get out of my mind. Sergiu Comissiona. Anyone know him? I have attended an Asian Youth Orchestra concert with him conducting the Dvorak's Symphony No.8. That's the no.1, the most wonderful experience in my concert life. That orgasm was still there after days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Folia Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Toscanini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K544 Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Mikael, that's a pretty good list, buy why did you omit Klemperer and Rozhdestvensky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo_jsb Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I agree with Rozhdestvensky, fantastic conductor, especially with David Oistrakh. I also like Mehta and Placido Domingo. Upon seeing Perlman conduct the London Philarmonic lately, I decided he is also an excellent conductor. Listen to the Jupiter Symphony on his latest CD with the Berlin Philarmonic. That is Mozart at its most divine. Carlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuminatus Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Yes, I know him. not personally, but I have seen him and met him before. He used to be the artistic director of the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra. Now he is retired, but I think he still lives in Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vieuxtemps Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Funny you should mention Comissiona. He was the conductor of the Baltimore Symphony before David Zinman was. He's currently Conductor Laureate. Tomorrow night I'm playing Tchaikovsky Symphony #1 with chorus added at the end by Comissiona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihneea Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 Celibidache?... (Well I confess I feel proud right now...... Yeah)... But anyway, my favorite is Karajan. Mihneea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicaelaB Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 Kleiber, Mravinsky and George Szell (with Cleveland- especially for Mendelssohn and Mozart). I know this isn't the topic, but one of my least favorite conductors is Charles Dutoit. Micaela Senior and accepted to college! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganiniest Posted December 17, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Yes Celibidache, he was something else. Some of the things he said would make your eye brows go... mmm... I spoke to one of his students that actually played under him. He told me, he cried, and we cried during a performance of Beethoven's Ninth. Can you believe that? when was the last time I cried playing this wonderful music? I am intrigued about the man. I think it is how is supossed to be when there is real music making. Respectfully, Pag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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