Victor J. Colon Posted March 16, 2001 Report Posted March 16, 2001 The other day I requested tonewood for my inventory "Specific" tipe of wood for reproductions. This people in Marco Ternovec have the arrogance of anouncing that they have well seasoned wood for string instruments, just 1 year old cut and e few month old.Thats not whell seasoned. Wood for instrumenmaking has to be at least 5 to 6 years drying, 6 to 12 better at least . If you can get a lot of 20 to 35, you have Gold!! After rejectimg their offer they treat you like trach insulting everyone in my staff including my wife.Calling you names etc etc. I will never consider this people again, another flaw for the profession... VJC
canofspam123 Posted March 16, 2001 Report Posted March 16, 2001 I just ordered wood for my first violin from svs tonewoods. They say that their wood is dried for one to three years. Am I going to have problems with cracking and seams seperating? Fred
canofspam123 Posted March 17, 2001 Report Posted March 17, 2001 Donuel, Didn't you glue your eye shut once? Don't know why I brought that up, but it made me giggle. I've used hide glue to put in some bushings, so I would never use white glue on a violin. I just remember my dear old palatino's bottom seam opening up because the wood was green, and it was still drying and shifting. Fred
DelDuca Posted March 17, 2001 Report Posted March 17, 2001 I just read about a tree ring date study of Strads and "del Gesu's" which said that some of the trees had been cut only three years before the instrument was made. Still, I understand that the difference between one year and three year seasoned wood is tremendous. Victor, I hope you insulted those people back good and plenty!
Victor J. Colon Posted March 17, 2001 Author Report Posted March 17, 2001 quote: Originally posted by DelDuca: I just read about a tree ring date study of Strads and "del Gesu's" which said that some of the trees had been cut only three years before the instrument was made. Still, I understand that the difference between one year and three year seasoned wood is tremendous. Victor, I hope you insulted those people back good and plenty! Is not my style of and eye for an eye,this way we will end up all blind. Just a word of advice to my fellow Luthiers and students Luthiers. Since I suffer a mobility problem ,I cant travel every time I need to re-up my inventory of tonewoods. Yes I have the same information about Strad's and Guarneri.,I read thet their wood was 3 to 4 years old when they made the instrumen. Todays Luthiers preffer a 6 to 12 year seasoned wood " Naturally Seasones " my teacher and Master Luthiers advice that the wood should be at least 6 years Air dryed. under cover and leting the air flow ,under ,over and around it. Never expose the wood to the Sun or rain and if posible control the humidity. VJC
tbloemer Posted March 17, 2001 Report Posted March 17, 2001 I had read in an article once that Vuillaume haunted antique establishments of his day in search of old furniture for tonewood, and that some of his best work featured this old wood from furniture. Have any of you tried this?
William Johnston Posted March 17, 2001 Report Posted March 17, 2001 If the last tree ring present in a Strad or Guarneri violin top grew only three years before the violin was made that means that they could've removed at most three grain lines while joining the plates and that no grain lines were chopped up while taking the bark off of the wood. Either the dating of the rings is wrong or the old Italians were good at carefully processing and joining green wood. Has anyone studied the tree rings of the maple backs? I've only heard about measurements of the top's age. It might be interesting to compare the growing dates of the top to the ages of the backs.
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