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  1. What the...!? The only thing I can think of for this label is a handwritten counterfeit attempted only after someone was sucked into a mirror after a botched use of a Ouiji board. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F163362396836 And pictures, in case the listing mysteriously disappears.
  2. immensefreedom

    Mom's Cello ID

    My Mom gave us her cello about 5 years ago that she has had most of her life and she is now almost 70. It has part of a marking on the inside that says "made in Germany", but that is the only identification I can find. We are going to have to sell it and I don't have any idea what maker it is from or what general price I should try to sell it at. She played it in many orchestras and other cellists thought it had a wonderful sound. Any help you could provide would be wonderful! Thank you. -Jonathan
  3. VeganCello98

    New Cello strings

    Hii :) I need to get new Cello strings, particularly the A string (the core is showing on that one...) and I'm not sure what to choose. I have played the Cello for about 4 years and I currently have pirastro piranito strings. I like them quite well but I'm thinking of maybe upgrading. I still want steel strings, I like the sound :) I have had my strings for about 2 years (I think) but I haven't really used my C and G strings a lot so they are still fine and it feels like a shame to just throw them out. So I'm thinking of maybe only getting a new A string or both getting new A and D strings. And to possibly get a different A string from the rest of the strings. Does anybody have any suggestion of what would be a good combo? Or if I change all of them what a good upgrade set would be? :)
  4. Assuming the LOB for a cello is 740-765mm, is the vibrating string length always optimally set at 695mm? Are there ever anomalies to this standard?
  5. montanacellist

    A Carlo Tononi? Copy? A cello

    I bought this cello in 2015 and sold it to a student...now they are asking if I'd like to buy it back for $2200. I'm tempted to buy it back. Though I'm wondering what the value of this most-likely-copy is... I found more detailed pictures of this same cello online... http://s78.photobucket.com/user/violiniada/library/2014/December%202014/CELLO%20GERMAN%20OR%20BOHEMIAN%20CARLO%20TONONI?sort=9&page=1
  6. Hao Ling Moose

    Bottom of Cello

    Hi. Please see the attached picture. Its the bottom of the cello and there’s that black thing. Is that something that you see in some cellos or did they just cut the ribs too short and put in a filler? Thanks from Kevin.
  7. ClefLover

    Fingerboard plane?

    I have a cello that has an obvious fingerboard dip near 4th position (heel area). It takes a nice dip and then increases a few centimeters toward the bridge. The buzz is across all four strings. Usually lightly sanding slight dips are easy, but this is a bit more severe. It has a newer fingerboard with plenty of wood to work with. I’m afraid that a block plane will take an excessive amount of ebony... is there an easier way? Can I approach the leveling from the nut or the bridge side with better and more efficiency?
  8. Hi there Kevin again. I wound up getting a Yita T20, MC7000, “Best Quality“ cello after all. I put in a bid on eBay and thought someone would bid it up. Well, they didn’t - so its mine. I’ve posted a few pictures. There doesn’t seem to be many close up pictures online so I thought I’d post some. I haven’t set it up, but I can immediately tell the bridge feet don’t fit so it so I’ll either have to get it better fit or get a new one. A new tailpiece is probably in order too. This was all expected given the price I paid, which was $711 + $189 shipping. Overall, the body is really nice and the wood appears to have been aged fairly well. One thing that I noticed was the top and bottom of the back have been nailed to the blocks. (pictured) Also, there is a noticeable imperfection in the neck that I’ve pictured. I’m wondering if its just on the surface or whether it will crack through over time, or whether the top block will hold it together. What do you think? Perish the thought of sending it back to China. Only the luthier will know. Otherwise, the body seems really great and I’m confident it will produce a good sound. Anyway, here are the pics. I’ll keep y’all posted.
  9. Here is a summer project... wondering the origin. My guess is amateur American, Ca. 1930. The scroll is further than 6 o’clock, more like 7:30, or so. Ffs look like a first attempt. Though fully lined with corner blocks, the slight view of the c block looks not let in, nor mitred. The purfling also looks like an amateur, especially at the corners. It has some unidentified glue, a sound post patch, and well... let’s just say it was not expensive
  10. Hello I'm putting this out there to see if anyone can help me. My mother just moved house and she doesn't have room for the cello any more. Not sure how much it is worth but it was made by a relative in the 1880s, so I want to make sure it's not damaged. I bought a hard case for it but would like a box to protect the case during shipping. I will ship it fedex UK to USA. It's a full size cello. The case dimensions are 140 x 56.5 x 39 cm. It came in a box but unfortunately that box is no longer available. I contacted the casemanufacturer and they haven't responded. Does anyone have an idea of where I can get a box? I'll be travelling between Manchester and Edinburgh with a biggish car. If I can't get a suitable box, any recommendations on packing the cello another way? Any help you can provide is appreciated! Many thanks! Cheers, Dave
  11. kdash

    JOHANNES KÜNSTLER?

    Have you heard of JOHANNES KÜNSTLER? The label says markneukirchen, representing this might from a student of this string-making university.
  12. The Acadia Trad Festival, to be held June 24-29, 2018, is a week of classes, workshops, concerts, community dances and music sessions held at the College of the Atlantic campus on the shores of Frenchman Bay in Bar Harbor, Maine. The 2018 Acadia Trad Festival will focus on Irish, Scottish, Cape Breton, Acadian, Québecois and Old-Time music and dance styles, and boasts a world-class faculty. Major classes are offered in fiddle, banjo, guitar, bouzouki, mandolin, harp, cello, flute, whistle, accordion, dance, and fiddle-making. Additional instruments and genres are offered as afternoon workshops. For more information, and to register or purchase concert tickets, visit https://acadiatradschool.org.
  13. Hi everybody I've been playing around with luthiery for a couple of years. Nothing big, just restored a couple of violins, rehaired some bows, done some setups and is just about to be done with my very first instrument built from scratch. It's just an electric guitar, but it's a nice one and it's a start. Now here's the thing: I'm a cellist. I can play a lot of strings, but I want to have an instrument that I've worked on that I can play a little more seriously than violins and guitars, partly so I can see if the things I do actually feels right if you're a more experienced player. I found an old cello on ebay that, sadly, has been sanded down. Even though it's a shame, it's a great opportunity for me to sget into working on cellos, have an instrument to play that I've been working on and also carry out a dream I've had about getting a stained black cello, not just black paint or lacquer. All of that I can finally do without ruining a valuable instrument. I don't expect much from it tonally, (it doesn't seem to me like it's overly well built) but of course I can hope. That was a lot of background... My actual question is: Would it be possible to convert a normal cello into a five string one (I'm thinking low F rather than high E)? I realize it's a big and risky procedure, but I wanted to ask some more experienced builders what it would take. The idea came to me a couple of hours ago, so I haven't thought it all through yet, but here are my thoughts so far: 1 - Will the neck be able to take the pressure? 2 - Will I be able to make the fingerboard wide enough by just "fanning" it out a little from the neck rather than getting it square? 3 - I expect the tone of the cello to be changed, but would it necessarily be to the worse? I'm thinking that the bass bar is positioned for a four string bridge and would sound worse with a wider bridge? Now this is just pure guesswork, I haven't looked much into the construction's affect on tone even though I find it really interesting. 4 - If I plug the pegholes and drill new ones, would the pegbox then be strong enough to support an extra string? 5 - I'm used to four string cellos of course. I expect there to be a very different arch on the strings and a smaller spacing. How should I make that arch for best playability and does anybody know how big of a difference the spacing makes? I hope somebody has the patience and experience to help me out here. Please tell me if I've forgotten something. Have a great day :-) Tobias
  14. Frank Nichols

    WIttner Fine Tuners

    I am considering a set of Wittner fine tuners for my new cello. I have searched and can not find much conversations since 2012. I would be interested in comments about WIttners internal geared tuners for cellos - Here are my initial thoughts for getting them: 1. They reduce the movement of the strings thus reduce flexing of the bridge while tuning, especially during times of extreme humidity changes? 2. They eliminate fine tuners from the tail piece, making it simpler and less damping to harmonics? 3. They do not require "gluing in" as the other competing systems to, which is less damaging to the pegbox? I respect everyone here so much, I would greatly appreciate comment on experience and opinions about the Wittner Fine Tuners, especially for a new student and cello! Frank
  15. markneukirchen

    Carbon Fiber Cellos

    I wanted to start an open-ended discussion on carbon fiber cellos. Here are the makers I've come across: 1) Luis and Clark. By far the best marketed. $7,139. Endorsed/owned by Yo Yo Ma among many other professionals/amateurs. I am in touch with them now to try out an instrument. Any color, custom options like 5 strings available 2) Quinton ("Instruments of Grace"??). I was recently advised that the workshop making these (custom order only)had been sold. Unknown whether production will continue. Ellen Gunst of Cellos2Go advised: The Optimus model was the original with the one-piece molded back and ribs combined. The Ultimus was a later model which had separate face and back plates. The pricing was approximately $6,000 or so for the improved Optimus models and about $10-12,000 for the Ultimus depending on the finish. The only place I've been able to find these for sale is Cellos2Go.com, but stock is extremely limited with 0 full size currently. 3) Mezzo-Forte.de's cellos are $4538 USD ($4100 EUR) for 4-string and $4804 USD ($4340 EUR) for 5-string. 4) Cosi (European). http://www.cosi-lagarde.com not working. French maker, unknown if still producing Numerous excellent discussion threads exist: http://www.cello.org/heaven/mbarchs/2001/july8/carbon.htm http://cellofun.yuku.com/reply/36981/t/Re-Instruments-of-Grace-Carbon-Fibre-Cellos.html http://cellofun.yuku.com/topic/6846/carbon-fiber-cellos http://cellofun.yuku.com/reply/91642/Opinion-on-Luis-and-Clark-Carbon-Fiber-Instruments The general spirit of existing discussions is that the difference between brands depends on setup and personal preference - i.e., a L&C is not objectively superior/inferior to Quintus However I have some questions I have not seen adequately addressed: 1) Does anyone have experience making/selling/adjusting/repairing these? How willing/able are luthiers to work these? 2) What other brands are there? 3) What is the best way to test out/hear multiple brands? Cello expos/congresses/shows etc. would seem to be the answer but so far no luck finding ones devoted to Carbon cellos. Hard to tell from videos. 4) Best way to acquire? Since they are virtually indestructible used should be preferable as they will be cheaper but basically as good as new. I would think the (unlikely) ideal is to score in a flea market/consignment/thrift store. Is there another used Carbon cello market? I've found very little on Amazon/eBay/Craigslist and only a few listings on Internet Cello Society 5) How well do these cellos age? I've heard their sound stays stable since Carbon fiber is indestructible 6) What does the future (market) look like for these? L&C cello have stayed virtually the same in dollars from 1994 (so in real dollar value they have become cheaper due to inflation). Purchasing a CF cello today is certainly a financial loss unless one earns income from performing, since selling used CF cellos entails a discount like for wooden instruments. Most used L&C go for about $6,000. L&C seems to have adopted the Apple model: only offer a single "best" option in each product line (i.e., violin, viola, cello, bass) at a premium (relatively) price. It seems that CF cellos may be gaining more mainstream acceptance/demand. I would expect more competitors (Mezzo-forte seemingly the first of the new guard) to step in to challenge L&C to fill the void left by the now-basically-defunct Quintus, and that may drive down prices and offer greater options. In addition as companies refine their processes and produce in greater volume, cost per unit will drop. Is it wiser to wait a few years to buy for those reasons? It may also be best to do so to assess whether CF is simply a fad or here to stay. If mainstream classical persists in discriminating against CF, they may not be viable as primary instruments. 7) What implications does the success of CF have for alternative cellos such as electric, aluminum, etc.? To what extent are these competing products? Perhaps CF's greatest contribution will be to open the minds of luthiers and players to new technical and musical possibilities and thus help innovations such as bent endpins, Starker bridge, Uitti double bow gain greater play.
  16. A local luthier is closing down, and has offered me an instrument with a very decent discount. It is a brand new cello built by the Hungarian master builder Péteri Károly in 2014. The instrument sounds really nice, but it has this "artifact" on the top: https://i.imgur.com/OgdMddD.jpg On the instrument, it is located here: https://i.imgur.com/Qj94RsY.jpg?1 Does anyone have an opinion on wether or not this is, or can become, a problem? Thank you in advance for your opinion in this matter!
  17. Hello. This forum had been such a great resource so far for me as a passionate hobby luthier. Sometimes you come across things and wonder if it’s authentic, like this W.E. Hill cello bow. What seems right By playing it it feels like it because despite it’s pretty superb. There is a little nick in the form of an Y in the lower mortise which would indicate that it’s by Sydney Yeoman. The varnish is reddish oil based. What seems questionable The frog is a nice piece of high quality ebony for sure but it doesn’t have that smooth polish. Or I would expect more of a polish. what seems off The tip is not made of silver but of ivory. There are no markings on the tip. And the metal bits on the frog aren’t silver. What do you guys think? Could this be real? It comes from an auction and bought it for 2900 kr in Norway which equals to 350 USD. It’s a nice price for a very a superbly playing bow. It might be dirt cheap for a W.E. Hill. If it’s real what would the value more or less be? And what might be the value if it were fake? About restoring bows. I restore bows. Rehairing and repairing. The silver plated winding should ideally be replaced and the leather too of course. If this is well done on a real Hill bow would it increase or decrease the value? Or should I rewind it with the original but worn wire? Greetings, Douwe
  18. krahnviolins

    Free cello with belly cracks

    Hello. I have a friend who has been gifted a cello with some very serious belly cracks. It is a free cello from the local university. Unfortunately I don't think it's worth pulling off the belly and cleating the crack (and honestly that would be beyond my skill set). I was wondering about suggestions for gluing the cracks shut with some wood glue or epoxy, I realise this is unspeakable to many of you, so my sincerest apologies to anyone who might be offended. It's really about nothing more than getting this instrument to make noise again. I can carve bridges and set sound posts, have done seam repair with hide glue, but this is something I have not tackled. Can someone offer their guidance. Much thanks.
  19. Hello, my name is Jim Biggs, I'm a student in the violin-making program at Indiana University. I'm starting my first cello, using the Strad poster for the Montagnana Sleeping Beauty. I have some questions for Maestronet members who've built cellos based on the Sleeping Beauty. 1) Scaling off the poster, I get 32.5mm for the top arching and 30 for the back. I've read the Sleeping Beauty has a lot of distortion in the back and possibly in the top, do you use these measurements? 2) The high points for both top and back seem to have migrated toward the tailpiece. Do you center the high points in the middle of the long arch? 3) To gain clearance in the wide C-bouts, do you raise the overstand or projection? What measurements do you use? 4) Do you prefer maple or poplar? What difference do these two woods make to the sound? 5) Do you have a preferred bridge type, French or Belgian? Favorite strings? 6) Do you have a Montagnana model that you prefer to the Sleeping Beauty? 7) Does anyone know who currently owns the Sleeping Beauty? Any other bits of information regarding this model would be greatly apprecitated. Many thanks, Jim Biggs
  20. stephend4890

    The Development of The Cello Bow

    I wonder if anyone in the group could advise me if there exists an archive of images and/or information on French cello bows from across the date range 1800-1900? I am researching the development of the cello bow but can find very little information on the CELLO - most authors seem to think that there is only one string instrument - the VIOLIN. Any help would be greatly appreciated - thank you in advance.
  21. Thomasgammeltoft

    strange bow with silver eyes

    I recently picked up this cello bow branded "J. Hel" on both sides of the stick. The brand looks original and although the bow has a head splice and quite a bit of handle wear, the octagonal stick is made of nice wood and the bow plays wonderfully. So well in fact, that it has become one of my own favourite bows rather than being passed on to my young relative as was originally intended. To my surprise, the eyes on both sides of the frog and at the end of the button are made of solid silver and not pearl. I have not seen this anywhere else, but is this common to any makers, or could it be something that was added later on to add weight? More generally, do anyone care to venture a guess as to the possible maker of this bow? I know that a lot of octagonal J Hel bows were made by CN Bazin, but to me this does not look like his hand, although possibly one of his apprentices - the head reminds me of Thomassin, if not the ferrule (provided that the frog and button are even original). any input much appreciated
  22. Hi everyone, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Violoncello-4-4-Cello-Mateo-Bruni-1949-u-V/192287360142?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Da98b1ce51e004842bb8c398545161c3b%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D222615375260&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ab624b01c-88e7-11e7-8f53-74dbd18052d1%7Cparentrq%3A1508ab1a15e0abda4bd10caefffc759d%7Ciid%3A1 I saw this cello on ebay, which has a label saying Mateo Bruni 1949, but it doesn't look right to me... (apart from the bridge that is placed the wrong way around ) It looks too new to be from 1949, and also the fingerboard looks as though it's just come out of the workshop. Would this be an example of a new Chinese instrument, with a fake label of a not too well-known Italian luthier, to make it not too obvious that it is something else, or could this be genuine? Joris
  23. neeneen6

    Just Gonna Dive In!

    So, I'd like to thank you all in advance for potentially helping me sort through all of the general questions I have, and also welcoming me into this community(by allowing me to create a free account to quiz the people in the lifelong trade/journey about what I seem to have gotten myself into). Thanks again for reading. I am excited to become a part of this particular community!
  24. Hilaryjb

    Whose face is this?

    The question I get asked most often about my 'cello (I mean, after, 'Don't you wish you played the piccolo?') is, 'Who is he?' Because he has a face instead of a scroll - and not the 'normal' lion or beautiful woman, but a cheerful, balding old codger. The seller suggested Mittenwald 1870-ish, but couldn't tell me who he was. I wonder if anyone recognises him? Or maybe the lamb-and-flag stamp on the back? Thanks!