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  1. Hi, So i just picked up another thrift store violin that caught my interest. It has many old repairs and looks quite old to me. There is a label inside located on the side which states "Carl Johan Broberg" along with "Gotheborg" as well as some other writing i cannot make out, perhaps someone here can help me? I was able to find the following information about the maker by googling in an old book, available here https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1247661/FULLTEXT01.pdf Translated from Swedish it says: "BROBERG, CARL JOHAN, violin maker, Gothenburg. Received in 1769 the commercial college's permission to make all kinds of violins and others musical instruments. Where he was taught is still uncertain. The violin maker Jacob Heilman in Engelholm had an apprentice Carl in 1759-1765, and in 1766 and 1768 Heilman's brother-in-law, Jöran Mohte, had a journeyman; the year in between, 1767, the journeyman at Mothe is called Carl. It is admittedly only a guess, but not impossible, rather quite likely that this journeyman Carl and journeyman Broberg are the same person, and that in 1769 he settled in Gothenburg as a violin maker. According to the »Relation on Gothenburg City Fabrikers Permit and production for the years 1771-1793» had Broberg, except for some repairs of instruments and manufacture of strings, completed 121 violins 61 bass violins — probably cello — 2 large bass violins, 2 violas, 36 zithers, 12 hops and 30 pcs. children's violins. He worked alone." There is also a pencilled note that says "Reparerad av (Repaired by) J E(?) Hansson Uddevalla, 1933", along with another year that i cannot make out. What I'm wondering is basically if this really is an old 18th century handmade violin? How does the quality look to you guys? Any idea of a potential value of something like this? Please see the last images for pictures of the corner blocks and labels. The soundpost has fallen so i've not been able to play it yet but it seems to have been set up quite well with well fitted pegs. Please let me know if you need any other pictures. Thanks so much for your help!
  2. Hi, can you tell me something about this Violin? It was used by German Violinist at the beginning of the 20th century. At this moment I can provide only photos added below.
  3. This is my new violin, I would like some help to possibly try to ID it? It is a stainer copy which the shop estimated to have roughly been made in 1780. The label is very faded however I'd love to learn more about it!
  4. Was anyone else invited to try this Beta? I can't imagine the program is as accurate as, say, the pre-eminent Mr. Saunders... Some time ago, Tarisio announced plans to farm their own sheep to make gut strings, and we know how that turned out. So I w ould be interested in hearing about others' experiences with this new tool. :-D (I don't have any unidentified violins at the moment.) OK, maybe I am a little jealous that Philip KT offered to go to Austria and meet with Jacob to study, before I thought to publicly disclose my secret plan...
  5. Hi I have my grandfathers violin here which his grandfather bought secondhand around 1890. Does anyone know the aprox age or country? It has painted purfling and no corner blocks. The sound post and nut are missing, I think the nut was ivory. Thanks
  6. Hi, I have a full size violin that was bought from Belmont Music Centre in 2013 for $20NZD and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about it, like age or country or anything. It has a pattern carved in the scroll, and has an ebony fingerboard. It has no label inside. The case is made in W-Germany so I'm guessing it would be 1950s-1980s (assuming the case was the original for the violin), the music centre we bought it from got it second hand in the early 1990s. Thanks!
  7. Hello, I know next to nothing about the violin in general so perhaps that's behind some of the ignorance regarding this post, but I have been fascinated by it's sound and aura for quite some time, so now, after sitting in it's case for say 30 years, I opened it up and will pursue to become.. well decent! I am merely curious what this thing is.. I'll include the label; the date is suspicious, surely "touched up", but if "Made in USSR" is true then it would be fun to have the name of a potential maker if possible? Whatever it is, it strikes me as a former "work horse". Perhaps you'll tell me that I'd have a hard time giving this away but if there is any value to this instrument I'd want to know, that said, for what it's worth coming from someone who has never held or heard a violin up close, it seems well balanced and resonates, to me, surprisingly well and I do enjoy playing it so it won't be going anywhere. The upper half of the chinrest is glued and about to fall off, so I'll peel that off and see if it suits me better, but I decided to leave it in case it holds any clues.
  8. i recently purchased this violin , i don't recognise any distinct model in its design any ideas? thanks
  9. Hello, I'm new to this forum and could use some help dating and identifying a Violin I recently purchased. It measures about 24 inches in length. The body measures 14 inches and the scroll measures about 4.5 inches. The body is 8.5inches in width At the base and 7 inches at the top. The violin does not have a label and I was wondering if someone could help dating and identifying the violin? Thanks for any help you can provide.
  10. Hi,I bought this violin in the year 2000. The man who sold it to me said that the violin was 200 years old (I don't know if it's true or not), but didn't know anything else about the instrument. It has a very warm and mellow sound. I don't want to sell it because it has a very sentimental meaning to me but I'm just curious. Can anyone please help me with more information? Any thoughts on age or origin? Thank you in advance.
  11. Dear violin friends, A few weeks ago, I posted a thread about an unknown violin bought at Amatis, with peculiar f holes. With not much success, I must admit... Next step was to go to the luthier, in order to get the thing fixed. So I went to Roland Terrier, at Mirecourt. I was pleased to see he took much interest in the violin, wich he identified as a XIIIth century instrument, most probably french. Roland said he would check his extensive photographic database in order to see if identification could be pushed further. Two open cracks had at least to be repaired, plus the usual fittings after a careful internal check. Some time later, I mailed to inquire about the violin. Roland had removed the top plate and was happy to indicate he had identified the maker, in an absolute manner. This happens rarely in such cases, but a detail he had observed but on this specific (scarce) maker had given him the answer. Here I join Rolands pic, with his kind permission.... The way the linings are (deeply!!) mortised into the corner block is indeed surprising, and typical for Claude Aubert, a french luthier who lived in the East of France, at Troyes. Once this had been cleared, the shield-formed wood replacement at the upper back plate, made sense. Aubert is known for branding his instruments between the interrupted purflings, on the back He is of course not the only one to do so (see a very old thread on the pegbox ). A previous repair had tried to erase the marks of a "less valued" maker.... I encourage you, if not already done, to visit Rolands impressive site about the Mirecourt school of violin making (and much more...) https://www.luthiers-mirecourt.com/galerie_instruments.htm The Aubert cello shows, in my eyes, some more similarities to this nice little violin. I am deeply indebted to Roland for sharing his knowledge with me, and allow me to publish this... Hope you had interest in reading that too.
  12. I just opened my account. I wish this wasn't the first thing I'd have to post. I've been following Maestronet forums for a long time, but without an account. lol Opened one so I could post this question. I'm still trying to figure how to use this. lol Sorry for the not-so-great photos. These are all the stupid seller could take. What do you think of the violins? In theory the labels say, Joseph Gagliano filius Nicolai fecit Neap. 1760 Photos >> (Click the link to go to the flickr album) https://www.flickr.com/photos/79657311@N02/albums/72157698710405975 Benoist Fleury, rue des Boucheries Faubourg S. Germain a Paris 1770 Photos >> (Click the link to go to the flickr album) https://www.flickr.com/photos/79657311@N02/albums/72157695538772732 Measurements for the Gagliano are, total length is 59,2 cm and the body length is 35,6 cm. Measurments for the Fleury are, total length is 59,4 cm and the body length is 35,8 cm. I'm no violin expert, I'm a historical keyboardist and builder. I would play the violin if I had enough time to invest in learning, so for now all I can do with my is educate myself about them and admire them. I know a thing or two about violins, and I'm not so dumb to think every violin for sale is the real thing as the label says. lol I've been ripped off with harpsichords in the past, so the same logically happens with violins. I used a bit of common sense to sort these out from some other ones I was looking at that were terrible Victorian factory made stuff. I'm trying to find out more because I was thinking of purchasing one or the other for my brother who is a violinist, but I rather ask those who are more knowledgeable for their opinions. I smell they might be fakes. I don't see a neck graft so it makes me doubt them very much. What do you guys think? Thanks in advance, Amade1783
  13. Here I have a Maggini copy with a klingenthal maker’s or trade stamp stamped on the inside of back. It reads ‘A...something. klingenthal’ Seems like a slightly better Klingenthal fiddle - scroll is neatly done, fully blocked corners, neat linings, one piece back. Anyone have any references or thoughts?
  14. I have what I think is an interesting violin, or rather the pieces of one, and I am hoping to learn some more about it. I do not believe that it has any particular value, other than perhaps the story it has to tell. The main point of interest to me is the construction of the top-plate and back-plate, which are both layered. Other than pictures, I only have a small amount of information I can provide. The violin was given to my mother when she was a young girl, growing up in rural Arkansas (which would have been sometime in the late 50s or early 60s), which means that it is at least 50+ years old. My understanding is that it was never actually played since that time. Eventually it ended up being stored in a shed for the better part of a decade during the late 70s into the 80s, during which time the condition severely deteriorated. When I was maybe 8 or 9 years old I got it out and "repaired" it. I glued the neck back on with carpenter's glue. I sanded off some really disgusting varnish that had turned to almost a black tar in places. I applied some cheap varnish and also painted the pegs and tailpiece. I mention these things to point out that those aspects of the current condition in the pictures will not provide any useful information (and may also affect those with delicate sensibilities toward these sorts of things). The tailpiece, which was on the violin when it was given to my mother, bears the trademark of Boonton Molding Company, formerly of New Jersey. Those are pretty much all of the facts I have regarding the instrument. So, it will just have to speak for itself in the pictures. I have additional pictures and can provide them if it would be helpful. I just don't want to put too many in this initial post.
  15. Hi guys! First post heren and I kindly ask for help in identifying and valuing this violin. It was bought 22 years ago, at that time I was still playing, but I had to focus on other activities and the instrument was left in the case for those years. From what I can remember the luthier who sold it said it was a copy, but I do not know how exact its source was. Thank you much! Rafael Mello
  16. Hi all can you help me ID my friends violin Its looks french german and it seem to have A signature BTZM or N
  17. Hello all, This is my first post, but I’m beyond grateful for how much I’ve learned by reading through MN forums archives over the last year or so. I’ve had this violin for about 25 years and I’d deeply appreciate any insight as to it’s origins and approximate age. My 9 year old son is just starting to play, and while this is still quite a ways off from being an appropriate size for him, I’d like to get a sense whether or not it’s worth investing to get it properly repaired. Length of back is 360 mm. It has blocks at all four corners, and the linings go straight over the blocks. Lower rib appears to be one piece and I don't see evidence of a notch (but maybe I'm not looking in the right location?) The neck length is 124 mm (baroque or transitional length?) Upper bout width is 172 mm Lower bout width is 202 mm Bass bar appears to be glued in. The neck block is rectangular (squared off at and has corners, unlike the curved shaped ones I’ve seen on other violins) and from what I can see from the separation at the button, the neck appears to be morticed into it. The tail block is also rectangular. I’m assuming the brass plates on the outside of the pegbox indicate repair, but I haven’t attempted to pull them off to confirm this. It’s unlabelled and I’ve been unable to locate any markings whatsoever. There are seam separations at the button and along the lower rib and as-such, the neck angle is more shallow than it would be were it repaired properly. Let me know if there are other images or details that would be helpful. Thank you so much in advance for any info and thoughts you’re willing to contribute! warm regards, Bill NJ, USA Here's a gallery with additional photos: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0OGFssfGG8YpLz
  18. For those interested in having a violin potentially identified (and not all can be identified solely based on photos regardless), please take some basic photos of your instrument. Photographs must be clear (not blurry) and well-lit (so details show). Do not have a distracting background (such as patterned tablecloths or bedding). Do not photograph the instrument from odd angles. Please provide the following basic shots: 1. Body, Front and Back 2. Body, Right side and left side, to show the arching 3. Scroll, Front and back 4. Scroll, Right side and left side 5. Detail of f-hole and C-bout (shows the purfling) 6. Saddle 7. Label (be aware that labels are often faked, replaced with labels from other instruments, and may be of little value. You may also want to add additional photographs of interest, such as a neck graft, repairs, anything that strikes you as unusual that may make the instrument easier to identify. A violin can be 'stood' upright on a sturdy container, such as a heavy water glass or jar or small sturdy bowl. Please ensure that the instrument will not fall while being photographed. Example*: *These photographs were taken by YitaMusic. I own the violin itself.
  19. What is this violin? Photo Here The violinist allegedly choked the woman so hard that the blood vessels in her eyes were ruptured, according to a court complaint. READ MORE HERE: http://nypost.com/2015/03/30/violinist-roamed-hotel-halls-naked-attacked-woman-police/
  20. Hi all. So here it is. This is the violin that was the spark that caused fire in my head. Although I've got some conjuctures nothing's still have no idea who has made this violin. Just to make it more clear I've decided to ask Peter Ratcliff to obtaine belly dates which he naturally did. I would like to thank him again here. Indeed he is really a pro :hail: What I have is my description and Peter's data of course. Measurements in spite of wood wear could not match exactly typical of that which father of this violin used to make. Measurements: LOB 354mm, Widths: 161/107/199,5. Peter's data: "The bass side visible latest ring is dated 1824 and the treble side 1817. You are right about the two sides being different and it is quite clear when I examine the plotted data on a graph.(...) The strongest correlations by far are with instruments made in Mittenwald, and that wood is quite typical of the one they used, but I wouldn't say exclusively. In view of the latest ring date of 1824, we have to assume that the violin was not made before about 1835 or so, possibly a little later, bearing in mind the exceedingly tight growth at the end of the series, (at the centre joint), and that is where some wood has to be removed to create the joint between the two sides prior to gluing the surfaced together. I also tested the data against published Master reference chronologies from the ITRDB (international tree-ring data bank) and found that both sides correlated with several at very significant levels of significance at the dates above, the best correlations with Swiss and Southern Austrian references." I've got some photos of it. Some of them are taken before restoration. Head (which was replaced with neck) and body was in bad state. I would say someone tried to change scroll with blunt knife. Lower ribs were replaced before I bought it years ago. They're two piece. If you would be so kind please help to identify it. If any more photo measure is needed I would be happy to deliver it. Regards!
  21. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-nice-violin-in-old-antique-case-/331566699399?autorefresh=true&nma=true&si=rs%252F45koWE0mF6L%252Bx4qPYex92hgA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 I'm thinking nice Mittenwald violin, first half of 1800s, in near original condition?
  22. Kallie

    Violin ID

    Any help with this one? Where it was most likely made? And about what age would you estimate it is? The non-blackened pegbox and the edges are somewhat different from the usual Markneukirchen violins that I see? There is no label inside. Top is smoothly carved, no gauge marks. It looks like it has 4 corner blocks.
  23. Kallie

    Violin ID

    *Double Post. Sorry*
  24. Kallie

    Violin ID

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Interesting-Old-Antique-Violin-With-Bow-For-Restoration-/281675703682?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=0kObZ3a3csGXjdNuOJXWOBrpIFk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Any ideas on this one? It has one of the most beautiful backs Ive seen on any violin. Scroll isnt grafted but neck seems to have been extended? The listing was ended before the end of the auction, so the buyer most likely accepted someone's private offer. P.S. Since this violin isnt on Auction anymore, I posted in Pegbox instead of Auction Scroll.
  25. Any ideas on this violin and bow? The violin seems like the usual to me, but the seal at the button is strange. And the lack of purfling. The front and sides seems to have been revarnished. The graft looks fake. No corner blocks. The bow is rather interesting (to me, atleast). Any ideas?
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