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Now that the little old viola is well strung and tested, it is time to try to find out what I have... The label was affixed in the bottom, on top of a repairer's stamp from 1954. When I checked the inside with a boroscope, I found the place on the rib where it had originally been affixed, the rectangular glue patch was quite visible. I also found an old bridge wedged into the bottom close to the bottom block, marked "H SCHICKER FREIBURG" The label seems to say "Joseph Meyer zu Br...... ..... Anno 1666", which is quite a bit earlier than I am willing to believe. Anyway, it sounds amazingly well with a full rich tone, so I am very happy with it.
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I came across this thing at «that auction site» and couldn’t resist putting in a low bid. It was said to have been in a box from an estate sale, meaning that I have no clue how old it is, where it comes from, nor really what it is. The decorated back is unusual, the varnish is horrible, the scroll is strange, the purfling (only on the back) is two parallel very thin cuts filled with glue? varnish? I guess it will become the victim of my repair attempts, and maybe one day it will become playable?
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I recently picked up the violin pictured and wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it? It is labelled by G.S.MacKay Aberdeen, who is listed in David Rattray's book on Scottish violin makers as an Aberdeen maker (d. 1917). However, I hear that many makers of the time also imported trade instruments and re-labelled them. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether or not this is the genuine article? I also have a standard German trade fiddle at home and there is no doubt this is a far superior instrument to that. I read one of the give-aways with the low grade trade stuff is the over-smoothness of the back/varnish. The MacKay labelled instrumnet has a much more varied texture to the figured grain markings as you can almost make out from the images. Does this suggest hand made? Are there any other indicators that can be seen? Any thoughts much appreciated.
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Hello, I am looking for some input on this violin. The label is not clear to say the least but the instrument appeals to me for some reason. Any thoughts on where and when it was produced? I am thinking it is based on an Amati or Amatus 1634? Any thoughts on it it are greatly appreciated. thank you.
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My eyes say French, but may just as well be a Schonbach. Any other opinions? http://www.ebay.com/itm/An-Old-Vintage-Violin-/332334008559?hash=item4d60a688ef:g:CPwAAOSwz3lZeLUg
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Hello there, I'm a new member, but I've used threads from this forum as an information source many times before. I'm a Danish cellist with a lot of hobbies, one being restoration of old violins. I'm rather new to it, though, and have only repaired one violin yet with a nasty sound post crack, so I need to gain a lot of experience. I picked this violin up from a luthier's shop window in Schleswig, Germany. He told me it's a 200 or more years old violin from Mittenwald. I asked why the maker didn't use flamed wood for the neck when the body seems to be of rather nice wood and he said that it was probably made by another person than the body like some sort of production line, just like the trade instruments. After staring at it in admiration ever since I purchased it, I've formed a theory that the neck might actually be made later instead of a neck graft. I think there is lots of attention to detail in the body, but not so much in the neck, and the combination seems weird to me. However, I don't have much experience, so I would love if someone could help me identify it. I have taken pictures with my phone, and I've observed a few details: The fingerboard seems to have been too low on this neck and have been lifted with a thin, angled piece of maple. Is that normal? The fingerboard has grooves from the strings The upper right corner where the left hand might rest is weared down a lot so it has a curve down and is even cracked along the purfling. The back has marks after having a chin rest mounted for both a right- and left handed player. Maybe it's been a student violin and used by many people? However, it only has marks in the c-bout on the treble side. It has been repaired in five cracks in the top and one in the side. The stamp on the inside looks a lot like the one of Christian Wilhelm Seidel, but especially the d is not as swung. I can't find anything anywhere matching this font. Does anybody recognize this branding? I can't upload my photos from my phone, so they're on Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0fyVNePhekSc2hsa2xxT3pTSWM My last question is one that I know has been asked too often: It's horribly firty with rosin buildup etc, how should I clean it? I've done my best with a damp cloth, but it's not really enough. I've heard turpentine should be safe on rosin varnishes (this should be dragon blood according to the seller), and it seems to work, but I don't really like how hard the turpentine itself is to get off the surface. I'm not asking how I should clean my instrument casually, but how I should do if I want to be the amateur luthier who enjoys making old stuff play again. Lastly, of course I won't do anything stupid to a really good instrument while I'm still learning, and it will under any circumstanced be taken to my luthier when I get home before I touch it. Sorry for the long post, but I hope someone out there can help me. - Tobias :-)
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This violin is being restored I only have pictures of what he has sent me. We believe it is from 1801 to 1850. He found this label inside anyone can give me thoughts or information on it I would like to include it with the violin. Any information will be appreciated very much. I have tried for a month to ID with no luck. There was newspaper clippings inside case I included the pictures
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Hello MN members, Hope I sized the pics properly. I have never posted but followed MN for years hoping to learn something. I have collected violins for years before following this site but knew nothing about them. I am uncertain on this violin, and have had it a long time. Should I have it repaired? Let's see if I have learned from the masters here how to identify violin traits. The saddle is cut into the top plate. Looks to be an early 1700's Strad copy, cheeked pegbox with the scroll cut nicely but not relieved a lot, the duck's tail more pronounced toward the neck heel. C-bout pointy linings cut into Willow? Pine? I dont know how to tell Lower wings of f-holes are slightly fluted. Purfling is well done IMHO, yet no bee stings close to the c-bout tips. It has the name of a previous owner in Boston circa 1920's inside on the back so I am guessing American, early 20th century, maybe Boston. Did I fail miserably?
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So a friend of mine bought this violin at a small auction and got it for $70. He then decided he didn't really want it and gave it to me a few months later. Lucky Me! Well I restored it by removing the black patch of rosin build up and taking it to a luthier to have a few seams re-glued. After the restorations, the violin plays great and has a set of dominant strings on it which respond very well. (And yes, I know the images display D'addario prelude strings. I purchased the dominants a few months after these pictures were taken). I then had a conversation with my local luthier trying to determine the origin of this violin (The inside label says "Antonius Stradiuarius Cremonensis Faciebat Anno 1734" which gives me absolutely no info about this at all other than its a copy of a strad, just like millions of other violins on this planet). He told me that his first impression was that it was Chinese because of the varnish but because of the purflng, it seems French. However, the arching around the outside doesn't swoop down then back up like a typical French violin. We went on and talked about different features this violin has that pointed in completely different directions on the globe regarding its origin. I guess I'm just curious because this violin is not like any one I've seen before. Any opinions about anything would be greatly appreciated. Extra info: It has all 4 corner blocks (this is nothing like a mass-produced instrument from the 20's) There have been no cracks/repairs besides re-gluing seams The varnish looks exactly the same in real life as it does in the pictures (So there's nothing to worry about with poor color reproduction) If you want any higher res or cropped images to focus on certain details (Or even images of something I didn't take pictures of) feel free to ask, I can take pictures any time. I always feel determined to get the best picture of what I'm told to take a picture of so no need to worry about anything being out of focus, blurry, or having poor lighting.
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The violin sounds amazing. Very warm and full, but I probably will not buy it because I am afraid of the amount of the cracks. the violin cost 5000$. What do you think?
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I would like to present you a very expensive viola that belonged to my violin teacher. Is a professional violist and plays as a soloist with the leading orchestras around the world. The instrument - Viola 42.2 CM Bought many years ago and up to this day my teacher trying to find out who built the viola. Expert from London have verified that wood that made up the instrument are the same wood used by Testore but the shape of the viola does not match the style of construction. Speculated that the viola was built in 1720-1750 Suggestions are welcome
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Hello guys. Lob is 361mm, upper bout 162, cc 112, lower 200mm. Corner blocks are all on their places, with linings let into. According to corner blocks, unfortunately I am not able to make a photo. All 4 blocks are not a rectangle but more like hexagon from visible side. I hope you know what I am trying to say. Bassbar on place. Please help. Jay
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Hey , I'd love to know if anyone knows the label inside And be able to verify that is a French violin http://jpg.co.il/download/56c970afda865.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56c970cdb3f87.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56c970e3eb22b.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56c970f25d1da.jpg http://jpg.co.il/view/56c9710ab68fd.jpg/ http://jpg.co.il/download/56c9711a002dc.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56c9714f8715f.jpg
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Hey, I would like to present you a beautiful violin that belongs to one of my students. He asks for help in identifying his violin. He bought the violin on a violin shop in israel at 3000 Euro, where he was told that they had no information about the violin and they only bought it from a client. I think that The violin looks beautiful and sounds great As a music teacher , but I'm not an expert. I would love to get information that you can give us from pictures. http://jpg.co.il/download/56cc4bdc2f179.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56cc4bf640f51.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56cc4c3019537.jpg http://jpg.co.il/view/56cc4c616d4c2.jpg/ http://jpg.co.il/download/56cc4c946ea76.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56cc4ca97ef16.jpg http://jpg.co.il/download/56cc4cc30a005.jpg
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Hi all, Just hoping you might be able to ID the maker of my violin. I was given it as a child and as it is in some serious need of restoration, I am hoping to ID it before I take it to a repairer. It says GVILLAMI inside but a google search has returned little to nothing! As I am a newbie, I am unable to upload photos. But if you know of any leads, anything will help. Thank you in advance!
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Violin branded Nicolas Chappuy on the back. Bearing multiple repair labels, one saying it was re graduated by Asa Warren White in Boston.. Any thoughts on ID?
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I am doing some repairs on this violin and the client would love to know something about where it was made. Her father purchased it in 1946. It bears no label. It has a neck graft. Thanks for looking!
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I bought this cello, it was abandoned in a basement and i dont have any idea about it, id would like to know if its worth repairing, it has a few open cracks, and info would be greatly apreciated, if you need any extra photos let me know, Thanks !!!! http://s46.photobucket.com/user/vomitorio/library/?sort=3&page=1
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Where would you say this violin originated? (Neither the pictures nor the violin belongs to me. It is a violin for sale, and the owner believes it to be of Italian/French origin, and definitely not cottage industry. ) It bears a label "Hirish" inside apparently.
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I would appreciate some help regarding the following 2 violins. VIOLIN 1: Label: Otto Viener in Mittenwalt an der Iser 19(49) - the 49 is written in. One piece back. 2 piece bottom rib construction The fluting doesnt go in to the VERY end of the violin scroll. Anyone know if this "Otto Viener" was an individual maker or is it just a label used by someone who sold imported violins? Any idea if this violin was made in Mittenwalt? I have my doubts, due to the scroll fluting not going in till the very end. Maybe he was someone who imported violins from other areas and placed his own label? Photos: Please keep in mind the lighting is very bad. The violin is more orange colored than the "redness" which appears in the photos. I can try to take better pictures tomorrow in better light should it be nessicary. See first reply for VIOLIN 2.
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This is currently my only old violin, claiming to be a Vuillaume copy, but I'm not sold that it goes further than the stamp/fake label. The instrument was recently set up and repaired to be in playing condition after being out of order for a very long time (came to me with open seams and the tailpiece glued to the top!) After being on the forums for a small amount of time (very small compared to the lifespan of a violin) I can guess the most likely answer to where the violin was made, but thought I'd ask anyway, just got my picture posting privilege so might as well use it while the instrument was at my local luthier, the original fittings (ebony) were removed and you can see that the violin has pins holding the neck and tail blocks in place (wooden pins, not nails.) I tried to picture the areas I noticed people normally ask for, if I missed something in my inexpert photoshoot, feel free to ask for it, but I doubt it'll be necessary. Thanks for looking! Also, my apologies that the photos are upside down, guess I'm not 100% proficient with an Ipad.
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I have seen many threads where people ask for an ID of their random violin, and people always can chime in with ideas of places. This just amazes my untrained eye. So I have to wonder, what do you look for in a old French violin?
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Hi all, I'm looking for a new violin, and I've taken a fancy to an old French violin. We've been told it's an 1880s Mirecourt, http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/carlos_rodriguez32/media/DSCF4924_zpsefd12e12.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 ( http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/carlos_rodriguez32/media/DSCF4923_zpsdc32ff68.jpg.html http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/carlos_rodriguez32/media/DSCF4920_zps5a7c7028.jpg.html http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/carlos_rodriguez32/media/DSCF4919_zps18dc64b9.jpg.html http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/carlos_rodriguez32/media/DSCF4915_zps591b3e36.jpg.html Could you please tell me what you think of it, and possibly find out the maker? The back measures 35.9 cm in height, it is very flat, and it gives a clear but warm, resonant sound. Thanks, Carlos R.
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