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In certificates for violin bows I often read that a bow is not assigned to a specific bow maker directly, but to his "school" ("School of Paejot" or similar). What does "school" mean? Was the bow made in the workshop of the named bow maker? Or from one of his pupils? Or by anyone else who only worked in the style of the named bow maker? I would be grateful for an answer from the experts.
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My mother sent a copy of the certificate from Lyon & Healy that had accompanied her violin at sale, as well as a copy of Moennig's evaluation that it is/was in their opinion a Sgarabotto. The Lyon & Health 1917 catalog that contained the instrument numbered 4954, as well as the certificate, state: Giuseppe Guadagnini, Milan, i 750-1 760 Number 4954. Giuseppe Guadagnini was the second son of Giovanni Battista. He followed in his father's footsteps with respect to model and general character of workmanship, his violins being very often mistaken for those of his parent. This instrument is in a perfect state of preservation and has an exceedingly large, robust, brilliant tone. It is an excellent violin for a soloist, teacher or orchestra player. Price: $2yOOO This violin was sold to one Robert Vauk of South Dakota on January 8, 1918. The only thing I can think of is that the certificate may have been separated from its original violin. The description reads: "The back is formed by one piece of handsome curly maple, which is matched by the maple of the sides. The top is of spruce of the choicest selection, of straight even grain. The varnish is of a reddish brown color. This instrument is in an excellent state of preservation and is No. 4954 in our records." Moennig in 1974 writes "Violin labelled J.B. Guadagnini, Milan 17??, in our opinion, is the work of Cavaliere Gaetano Sgarabotto during the first quarter of the century. The back is of one piece slab-cut maple, with narrow irregular flames. The sides and scroll are similar to that of the back. The top is of two piece pine mostly of medium broad grain. The varnish is an orange-brown color." As Martin had pointed out earlier, the violin looks like kind of a rough and ready somebody's idea of a Guadagnini. It's kind of gouge-y looking with fixed cracks in the top, messy purfling, and looks as if it took quite a hit at some point. Despite all it is a real nice sounding violin and pretty to look at. My question is - do you think the Lyon & Healy certificate belongs to this violin? Any any other comments appreciated, as well. I'm just trying to flesh out what I know about this instrument.
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Hello, My violin is Joseph Dall'agio Fecit in Mantua Anno 1828. It doesn't have A certificate so I am not sure if it is original. What do you do think about this violin? Is it really made in 1828? Is it original? The luthier is selling 18.000 euro but Joseph Dall'agio's other certified violins are 20.000-30.000 euro on the internet. I will be happy if you can help.
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APPRAISALS AND CERTIFICATES: DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE?
Jonathan Rubin posted a topic in The Pegbox
I thought some might find this interesting - This is written by Robert Cauer APPRAISALS AND CERTIFICATES: DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE? Even some inexperienced dealers don't know it. In the violin world, the terms "Appraisal" and "Certificate" are used often interchangeably but there is a big difference. A Certificate is a document used to declare the Authenticity of an instrument. A Certificate often (but not always) has accompanying pictures and is as credible as the person who wrote it. There is no price stated on a certificate and it will accompany the violin whenever it changes ownership. Certificates are considerably more expensive than an appraisal. They usually cost 5% plus of the instrument's value if they are written by a known and respected connoisseur. An Appraisal is a document used mainly for insurance purposes to state the replacement value of the instrument. As opposed to a certificate it has to be renewed every few years to state the current value. A dealer without much knowledge about the originality of instruments can still make an insurance appraisal for an expensive violin, even a Stradivari, if he has access to the original certificates by known and trusted connoisseurs. This appraisal is usually a bit under $200.00 for very expensive instruments. Unless the dealer writes an actual certificate, his appraisal it is not an individual confirmation of the authenticity of the violin. It is merely an opinion about the value of the instrument while relying on the existent certificates. The owner with a fine instrument, which is well certified does not need yet another certificate to get an evaluation for his insurance. Sometimes the statement in an appraisal contains the sentence: "Made in our opinion by..." if the instrument has already strong certificates, which state that it is genuine. This is sometimes done to elevate the status of the dealer who writes the appraisal. This sentence rarely appears on appraisals if there are no strong certificates for instruments with "expensive" labels. Of course there are some experienced dealers, who know and recognize the maker of the instrument. However they would never make the mistake of calling an appraisal "certificate" as we have seen several times lately. Insurance appraisals usually state the value higher to include the sales tax. Therefore they should not be taken for coin value by a buyer who buys an instrument from a private party. In some instances appraisals are made to state the wholesale value at which a dealer might buy it, or for a price the instrument may fetch in an auction.- 7 replies
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