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Howdy folks, new to this website. My grandfather was a collector of old instruments, and I've been playing violin since I was a little kid. I own two of his violins, we had them restored so I could play them in highschool. It's been a few years since I've graduated and I'm picking them up again. One was easy to figure out (from the 1880s!), But this one has me perplexed!! I can only find a single google search result for Edward Kreusler, and it's an auction from 2010! I would love to know when this violin was made and/or the history of it's maker, but I can't find anything!! I'm not sure what all was replaced when it was restored. It was restored about 5-6 years ago. Anyone know anything??? Thanks!!
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Esteemed Pegbox contributors - I have a 1989 EH Roth workshop instrument out on trial from a local shop. I am enjoying playing it and would consider purchasing, if not for the price tag of $10k. From what I have seen online, this price seems more in line with a 1920’s EH Roth made in Markneukirchen. Later instruments from the Bubenreuth-Erlanger shop appear to be worth half that. Am I missing something?
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Hi everyone, this is my first post here so go easy...if you need more info or a better picture just ask ^.^ I recently purchased a stainer copy from a reputable dealer, and was told my violin was from around 1913 due to the fact that it says "germany" instead of "made In germany". I paid decent money for it and it sounds great, but I'm worried about selling it for a decent price when I'm ready to upgrade. Any input is very much appreciated, pictures attached.
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Can anyone tell me if this is an authentic Bisiach violin? This was passed down to my grandmother who gave it to me to get appraised. If it is authentic, how much could this be worth?
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What should I do to become an appraiser? Hello I am currently a student at Stradivari School in Cremona, Italy. I want to be a violin appraiser, but I don't have enough information, so I left this question. After graduating from school, I want to work as a violin appraiser in the distant future while working as a repair and restoration worker to get experience. My current plan is to work in the UK or the United States after graduation(I'm Korean), and during my working experience as a repair and restorationist, I would like to study individually, get experience in many musical instruments, and work as an appraiser in earnest if I have a lot of experience in the distant future. But is this the ideal idea? Because of the distinct characteristic of appraisal, I also think it would be better to work with famous appraisers or learn from them after graduation, but I'm worried that it won't be easy.. How should I orient myself to become an appraiser, and build up my career? Please give me some advice. Ps. If there is any book that can help about study of appraisal, please recommend it
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I’d appreciate any insight you can lend about this instrument. I’m a lawyer but have a performance degree from Cleveland State and play with the Johnstown Symphony, which is a small orchestra with a $500k budget. I’m sure I’ll continue to play throughout my career, and am now on the board of trustees and players committee. I share that background because it relates to my perspective. My high school teacher (cello professor at Indiana University of Pennsylvania) is selling this instrument for $17,000. I was her last student and we have a “Tuesdays with Morrie” type of mentor relationship. She bought it in 1979 from a dealer in Cleveland, but has no papers. She thinks it was played in The Cleveland Orchestra. I’ve contacted Donald Rosenberg (former music critic of The Cleveland Orchestra) and the current TCO archivist, neither of whom recognized it. There has been a photo posted of it in their hall for some time, with no luck. The only label inside is from a 1979 restoration by Kolstein & Sons in NY. It was restored by Fred Oster’s shop in Philadelphia last summer, which believes it to be at least as old as the 18th century. My former teacher from The Cleveland Orchestra was complimentary of its sound and said it is every bit as good as his backup (to his regular Forster instrument) that he plays on tour. I contacted a well known appraiser in Philadelphia who isn’t interested in appraising it and did not like the instrument, and had no idea where it was made and suggested that any value is speculative. He also does not believe it was ever played in The Cleveland Orchestra, at least under Szell. Terry Carlin in Cleveland said that it has had a lot of work (more than average for its age, which is unknown) but that the work was done well. It is 28.5”/73cm long. 13”/32cm wide (point to point) across the upper bout. 16”/41cm wide at the lower boot. I’d be grateful for any additional guidance you could lend, suggestions of an appraiser in the Pittsburgh/Cleveland/Philadelphia area. I’m willing to travel to learn more. Just at a loss as to what to do where the origin and value are so unknown. I feel like $17,000 may be a good price if all we know is that it is old. But it’s also tough to spend so much on such an unknown. Thanks very much. Brad Holuta IMG_0108.MOV
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Hi, I just got this violin from my uncle who quit playing due to carpal tunnel syndrome. I don't know it's value and there are no labels on the inside. It seems like a very nicely constructed instrument, although I do see something in the wood which I've included a picture of (I think it's called a knot???). The sound is quite brilliant and the varnish seems flaky, where it chips off in pieces rather than scratching off (sort of hard to explain so bear with me please). There are scratches on the violin which are not really noticeable. Picture quality isn't too great either and they are out of order so I apologize. I have little to no knowledge of violin repair or appraisal so any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Hello, im completely new to this site, and I dont know if im doing this right. Anyways.. Let me introduce myself, i'm Niam, a violin dealer in UK and I have acquired a lovely looking violin. I would like to hear your opinions about anything about the violin (value? origin, age, etc). I'd love to hear different insights. The violin is in perfect condition and has fluted f-holes, a nice blonde varnish and well done purfling. Im hoping the pictures will upload and that i did it right O.o Thanks!
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Hi all, Completely new here, so I hope I observe the etiquette. I'm an upright bassist with 10 years experience on Talkbass, but I was recently given an E.H. Roth violin. I've found some info online, but want to know what you Maestro-netters think of this particular instrument. It's an Amati copy with a one-piece back. The wood, particularly the neck wood, looks quite nice. There were, unfortunately, two cracks in the top that have been glued. I don't think they were cleated but they're definitely solid. I'm trying to include severals pics, but haven't quite figured that part out yet. I'm interested in any comments, and also an approximate value if it were set up. Thanks! Paul (Eh_train)
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APPRAISALS AND CERTIFICATES: DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE?
Jonathan Rubin posted a topic in The Pegbox
I thought some might find this interesting - This is written by Robert Cauer APPRAISALS AND CERTIFICATES: DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE? Even some inexperienced dealers don't know it. In the violin world, the terms "Appraisal" and "Certificate" are used often interchangeably but there is a big difference. A Certificate is a document used to declare the Authenticity of an instrument. A Certificate often (but not always) has accompanying pictures and is as credible as the person who wrote it. There is no price stated on a certificate and it will accompany the violin whenever it changes ownership. Certificates are considerably more expensive than an appraisal. They usually cost 5% plus of the instrument's value if they are written by a known and respected connoisseur. An Appraisal is a document used mainly for insurance purposes to state the replacement value of the instrument. As opposed to a certificate it has to be renewed every few years to state the current value. A dealer without much knowledge about the originality of instruments can still make an insurance appraisal for an expensive violin, even a Stradivari, if he has access to the original certificates by known and trusted connoisseurs. This appraisal is usually a bit under $200.00 for very expensive instruments. Unless the dealer writes an actual certificate, his appraisal it is not an individual confirmation of the authenticity of the violin. It is merely an opinion about the value of the instrument while relying on the existent certificates. The owner with a fine instrument, which is well certified does not need yet another certificate to get an evaluation for his insurance. Sometimes the statement in an appraisal contains the sentence: "Made in our opinion by..." if the instrument has already strong certificates, which state that it is genuine. This is sometimes done to elevate the status of the dealer who writes the appraisal. This sentence rarely appears on appraisals if there are no strong certificates for instruments with "expensive" labels. Of course there are some experienced dealers, who know and recognize the maker of the instrument. However they would never make the mistake of calling an appraisal "certificate" as we have seen several times lately. Insurance appraisals usually state the value higher to include the sales tax. Therefore they should not be taken for coin value by a buyer who buys an instrument from a private party. In some instances appraisals are made to state the wholesale value at which a dealer might buy it, or for a price the instrument may fetch in an auction.- 7 replies
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