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  1. OK. Thanks! Thank you! Yes, going by the label and Strad O Varius Jr.'s reco above. Was leaning on a basic 200-300 setup working out fine. If not, it has full 'reverb protection' and a 14-day return period that might be handy.
  2. Thanks everyone! I'm now down to 2-3 choices, based on your expert recommendations here: Choice #1: Jay Haide Balestrieri European Wood version from Johnson String https://www.johnsonstring.com/cgi-bin/music/scripts/violin-viola-cello-music-itm.cgi?itemno=WEB-HAIDE-BALEST-VN Choice #2: Carlo Micelli The below Carlo Micelli from reverb.com checks a bunch of my other non-expert checklist marks on various other fronts, except for the 'no online buys' clause, although the seller has 100% ratings on reverb, and it's supported by 'reverb's protection' and a full return policy minus shipping. So, am very tempted to take my chances on this one. https://reverb.com/item/37229363-vintage-1900-carlo-micelli-4-4-violin The above one has a video of it being played, which sounds great to my untrained ears: 1900 Carlo Micelli being played : https://youtu.be/FuQ52jKJ0yE Choice #3: Anton Krutz from reverb.com https://reverb.com/item/31894076-krutz-artisan-500-series-violin-4-4-xmk-w-case-bow
  3. OK. It's listed for $1295 on craigslist. So, even if I can bring him down to $1000, it might be a total of $1500-1800. I will certainly be able to hear it before buying, but I don't have the expertise to tell between a loud/resonant 'decent' sounding violin from a better sounding violin. OK. Thanks. The below Carlo Micelli from reverb.com checks a bunch of my other non-expert checklist marks on various other fronts, except for the 'no online buys' clause, although the seller has 100% ratings on reverb, and it's supported by 'reverb's protection' and a full return policy minus shipping. So, am very tempted to take my chances on this one. https://reverb.com/item/37229363-vintage-1900-carlo-micelli-4-4-violin The above one has a video of it being played, which sounds great to my untrained ears: 1900 Carlo Micelli being played : https://youtu.be/FuQ52jKJ0yE OK. Thanks. OK. Looks like I might be better off to pass that one. Thanks. OK. I get it. Thanks. I had since adjusted my mindset based on the feedback here. I'm no longer looking for a 'good forever' violin. I'm only looking for a 'better' sounding violin than a typical 'intermediate' violin, with the hope that it might be better value for money (vs. renting or buying a typical student grade violin) and a better chance for my daughter to enjoy her music better, and hence a better incentive for her to stick with it. OK. Thanks. My DD already has 2 other cheaper school/student grade violins (a William Lewis & Son and an E.R. Pfretzschner) for use at regular school-based lessons and other unsupervised public settings, and I have a non-labeled 'Made in Germany' violin that I use for my casual, beginner/intermediate level playing. This new violin I want to buy for my DD would be for her exclusive use at private home classes and daily home practice, and I'm always with her in her private classes at home and during home practice. So, not too worried about knocking this one out/breaking it, playing in sun/rain, etc. I seriously hope the marketplace for uber expensive carbon fiber bows and strings at least is a bit more standardized/streamlined and not as utterly confusing littered with fakes/overpriced junk as the violin space seems to be. So, hoping that if I buy a $500 Codabow off amazon.com or some store, then I'd be guaranteed to get the real thing and not some fake or some 'antique copy' of some famous luthier.
  4. I get it, you are right. But I also keep hearing that brands/labels can mean something and can play a part in terms of some base quality, hence the quest Thank you! The European wood version of it seems great. And the description says the luthier modeled it after his own original antique violin. Will go and try it out. I see some Doetsch violins at Johnson strings. You might be right about them now being chinese made with chinese wood. Sounds like a very sensible plan. Will follow this.Thanks. Oh. Great to know we have some local luthiers on this very forum! Thanks. OK. Thanks for the insight. Thanks for the confidence/encouragement. I see I have a very uphill path to even start on that front and build up expertise. *****Thanks everyone for your insightful comments and education!!**** ########################### ########################### Now I have a new quandary. Bumped into this post on craigslist for a local 'antique' violin supposedly made by an immensely talented luthier who apparently passed away after building only 10-15 violins. Searching on this forum resulted in a 10 yr old post asking about this same luthier, and a reply by the said luthier's granddaughter. So, sounds somewhat intriguing, although I can see it might need $200-500 worth of setup work (he says he will include dominant/pirastro strings. Anyone familiar with the said luthier - Julian A Lapinski? https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/d/danvers-violin-4/7452831262.html Violin 1 outta 10 built by Julian A Lapinski in the 1920s. Was a Luthier and Violin Maker for The NY Symphony very Rare. I will put new strings on it. Although correspondence with the poster was a bit awkward, to say the least: Me: What kind of strings do you plan to put on the Lapinski violin? Any additional insights into the authenticity of the two vintage violins that you listed: - how did you procure them - are they formally appraised/examined by a luthier, - how sure are you about the claimed provenance? Also, have either of these been recently serviced by a luthier? Do either of these need additional setup/adjustments for the bridge, soundpost, etc.? https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/d/danvers-violin-4/7452831262.html https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/d/danvers-violin-4/7452819754.html Poster's reply: Today: You still want to see Lapinski Violin. Sold the other. It needs a basic setup. So we can put Dominants. PIRASSO (sic!) WHATEVER
  5. Wonder how the Ma Zhibin M20 or Master (from Yitamusic on ebay) compares to other contemporary chinese labels like Jay Haide, Eastman, etc. and to other 20th century (possibly fake) German/French 'antiques' like the below: Karl Hofner 1960 - https://reverb.com/item/43252132-vintage-karl-hofner-violin-4-4-germany-c-1960s-stunningly-beautiful-very-good-sound Carlo Micelli 1900 - https://reverb.com/item/37229363-vintage-1900-carlo-micelli-4-4-violin Rudolph Wurlitzer 1930 - https://reverb.com/item/32836272-rudolph-wurlitzer-cremona-german-4-4-violin-ca-1930 Snow - https://reverb.com/item/31560520-snow-liuthieria-pv900-4-4-violin-90044-631-no-case-or-bow Eastman Andreas - https://reverb.com/item/39512533-eastman-andreas-eastman-vl605-violin Earl 20th century German - https://www.ebay.com/itm/194508422523 Tons of thanks everyone for taking the time to help and educate me!
  6. Thanks. Will check them out. Any specific model recommendations from the below Carriage House list, apart from the previously suggested Jay Haide, Eastman, etc. Any other specific 'good shop'/luthier recos in the New England area? https://www.carriagehouseviolins.com/cgi-bin/music/scripts/vvc-f.cgi?search=Violin-Instruments and Bows-0-4999-Acoustic Instrument&size=1&f=size OK. The teacher is a big shot busy lady with back to back classes all weekend and weekdays are a bit of a struggle for me. But will try. Thanks. Wow. You are lucky to have an expert teacher with such integrity. OK. Will try with Carriage House.
  7. Thanks for weighing in. That aligns with my thinking too! Are the violins labeled 'Mittenwald' trustworthy enough?
  8. My DD has been learning for 2-3 years now. The teacher is suggesting we continue to rent, which is not cheap in the New England area where I live - ~$500/yr for an 'advanced student' violin. I'd rather spend that rental money on buying a good violin instead. Let me rephrase and clarify. When I said a 'forever' violin, I meant more like a violin she can grow into and continue to play until (and if) she chooses/gets to be a professional player able to buy (or contribute towards) her own violin, in the next, say, 5-10 years. In my DD's case, she was suggested to go with a 4/4 starting this year (she'll be turning 10 in a couple of weeks). My DD is a rather unusually responsible and 'mature' kid for her age. Touch wood. And, I always accompany her to all her violin classes, and participate with her while she practices at home. So, she won't be fully 'responsible' for the upkeep/safe keeping of the violin on her own. I will be. Yes. The local music shop that we currently rent from does have a trade-in policy, but trade-ins are (understandably) limited to violins in their catalog, which I find, in cases of the shops that I visited so far, to be focused around average quality (despite being labeled as 'maestro', 'sonata' etc.) and relatively overpriced (imho) contemporary Chinese violins with fake Italian/German names or overpriced (imho) contemporary European trade/factory violins, presumably because they have higher margins. Let me rephrase and clarify. When I said a 'forever' violin, I meant more like a violin she can grow into and continue to play until (and if) she chooses/gets to be a professional player able to buy (or contribute towards) her own violin, in the next, say, 5-10 years. >> Thanks so much everyone for your kind and insightful responses and guidance. Sorry for my delayed and combined responses. This forum has a daily limit on my posts since I'm a noob here.
  9. Thanks for the valuable insights, everyone! I had initially thought that $1000-1500 might be a decent range for an advanced/orchestra grade violin. But, as your replies point out, that might not be the case. Accordingly, I've warmed up to a slightly higher range of $4000-5000, if that's the only way to get a good 'forever violin'. My ask really is about how to ascertain that a higher priced violin is really worth that much vs. just an overpriced and overhyped markup. Is higher price by itself a good enough indicator of quality? I can afford a $5K violin, but am struggling with ascertaining the real 'value for money' vs. hype. I appreciate suggestions about trusting your unique ear, taste, etc. but I'm afraid I don't have that sophisticated an ear, yet! I'm a total noob, and can't really distinguish between the sound of a multi million dollar Strad vs a $2000 violin. I just want to buy a 'good' violin that my 9YO DD won't outgrow until, say, she performs in an orchestra, in say 10 yrs. She's a very committed student and practices at least for an hour everyday without any coaxing. So, I know she won't give up on violin anytime soon. I considered getting her a $500 'student' violin for now and then let her outgrow it, but then again am thinking why I should not get her an advanced/professional violin right now, so she can play and enjoy it for years to come? I have visited some local music stores, along with my daughter's teacher, and my experience was not unlike that of visiting a used car dealership. So much of salesmanship and pressure, largely based on eagerness to close the sale and peddle 'something' just based on the higher end of my budget, using salesy and flowery prose that sounds sweet - not unlike that found on cheesy ebay listings vs. true and honest expert consultation based on my ask for a 'good forever' violin based on a good 'value for money' thinking. So, am not completely sold yet on the idea that *all* luthiers/music stores can truly live up to the hype of being true and honest experts who can truly setup a violin to its best ability, and not over mark it up in the process. I certainly realize the commerce aspect and the need for a reasonable mark up, but I find that most local stores that I visited just blatantly inflate the prices on their own 'proprietary' self-sourced contemporary 'Chinese' factory manufacturers albeit with Italian/German sounding labels/brands that you can't find anywhere else other than that store, so there's no possibility of an 'apples to apples' comparison, making the whole buying experience highly subjective and iffy at best. Is a sane, rational, 'good value for money' buying process possible at all for someone who's not a luthier/violin expert to sort out a decent 'good forever' violin, or is it all highly subjective and complicated 'hit or miss' process with so many fakes and damaged/covered up and misrepresented and overpriced junk all over (including online and in store options)?
  10. Hi, Am sure this question has been asked tons of times before, and I did try to search for any previous threads on this topic, but could not find any useful, consolidated advice for an 'advanced/step-up' violin label, preferably a German/Italian/French one from the early to late nineties, ideally priced under or around $1000-1500 and targeted towards an advanced student/orchestra player. What would be some commonly found German/Italian/French labels at the various playing levels - intermediate student, advanced student, conservatory orchestra student, etc. I was looking at some commonly found 'german/italian/czech' 'antique' labels like Pfretzchners, Morellis, Amati Sandner, Josef Lidl, Josef Lorenz, etc. on reverb.com and ebay, etc. but was not sure how they compare in quality to a contemporary one like, say, Cremona 'maestro' or some 'artist' or 'master' level violin labels like 'Allessandro', 'Snow', 'Jay Haide', Scott Cao, etc. from stores like Fiddlershop, or from any of the local music stores. IMHO, most local music stores that I have checked out mostly have overpriced, contemporary violins (increasingly from China) of an OK quality, but am afraid not good value for money, especially when compared to what similar money can get from an antique German/Italian/French "hand-crafted" models from the 20th century. Any guidance, advice or pointers to any older threads on this topic will be highly appreciated! Thanks! Some listings I was looking at below. I realize they span a wide price range, but am looking for a decent 'intermediate/advanced' level violin under/around $1000-1500, if there's such a thing. Don't mind spending closer to the higher end of that price range, as long as there's enough improvement in quality vs. say a Pfretzchner around $300-400, but not sure where to start and how to filter out the substandard/fake ones. https://www.ebay.com/itm/134024972998 https://reverb.com/item/51225377-1940-francois-barzoni-chateau-thierry-violin-blonde-4-4-size-french-model-flamed-maple-blonde-finish https://reverb.com/item/48662661-ludwig-koschat-4-4-full-size-violin-1910-curly-maple-w-bow-case-ready-to-play
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