W.C.

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  1. Thanks Martin. I think I got what you mean. Now I can visualize what it was supposed to look like
  2. It is possible, although in my personal experience rodent damages usually happens in a much greater scale and tend to be messier. It almost appears like someone is really bad at the sound post adjustment tool, and therefore scraped pieces of wood off the sides.. Notice how the wears appear almost in segments of straight lines. Just my personal opinion though, I definitely did not see enough violins to assert the truth.
  3. I saw this one too. Personally I like the scroll, but the f holes really threw me off. Especially on the bass side, you can see very crude traces, as if someone was trying to widen the f holes, or they are just weird, crude wear in an unusual spot. I can't comment on the place of origin, to me it is equally possible to be Italian or Bohemian, or quite frankly anywhere else.
  4. Thanks a lot Martin! The thick edgework really explains it. I am surprised how many people outside of our community are falling for these falsely labelled violins every year, as they are way overpriced for what they are. I guess violin is one of those "gray area" items that you can't just report scam and those eBay admin folks could really do a lot for you... Especially with these vague descriptions. Also purely out of curiosity, would you mind explicate "excavated"? does it mean the f holes have been widened? I suppose they did it to hide the true identity of these violins? Thanks again!
  5. Hello! Again I am sharing this listing for educational purposes! I know we had a discussion on this particular seller who sell falsely labelled violin at high prices, and this one is definitely not a B.Calcagno as advertised, and not worth the price. But all matters aside, the violin looks nice, with ok craftmanship. I am particularly interested in the pattern(model), the general plate outline and the f hole shape, which kind of reminds me of something but I cannot recall. Does this particular model represent any maker, region, or period? Basically posting as an ID post. Thanks! ht
  6. My apologies for my absence in the past two weeks, as work really occupied most of my time... I just want to say thank you to Martin and Jacob and fiddlecollector! Learning from you guys everyday!
  7. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284150330315 Saw this listing on eBay. Definitely not a Pierray, but the craftsmanship seems ok. The center bouts seem very short as compared to most violins? Posting for educational purposes, what could this be? Is it even French?
  8. Thanks Jacob, that's very comprehensive!
  9. Saw this fairly decent-looking violin on Bromptons... I wonder if this is something like a better quality JTL? If not, what could it be? Waiting to be educated https://www.bromptons.co/auction/1st-11th-december-2020/lots/64-a-good-violin-possibly-french-circa-1870.html
  10. It's old but I wouldn't trust anything on that label. Look at those pixels!
  11. Well can't complain on that....if that is indeed the way their business operates... What about those that they claim for sure? Would that be more or less the same story? i.e. if they list a violin as "an Italian violin", and that violin happens to be totally unlabeled/unbranded, I suppose the only thing they (like the rest of us) can do is look at it and saying "Hmm it looks Italian", and go ahead and list as an Italian instrument?
  12. Bump. I want to ask the same question, but I'll post my wild guess before the experts kick in. For anything anonymous, whey would look at the style, craftsmanship, varnish, etc. If a good amount of these traits match Italian, or would be "good enough" or "close enough" to be an Italian, they would list it as Italian (because why not?). Whenever they do that, they should be pretty sure that there is No way to Confirm the violin's true identity, whether Italian or not. Sorry for pinning @martin swan out of nowhere, but mind sharing your insight on this? I have read through your "Violin Auct
  13. In my interest, why in the world would I? But if later the violin I purchased is confirmed to be Chinese instead of the catalogued Italian, why in the world wouldn't I ?
  14. Thanks Alex! I think you are quite right on this. Though this is not my problem, but I suppose if I can get a consensus on a few well-respected makers proving that it is "not Italian", Brompton's or Tarisio or those auction houses that made that claim should probably reconsider its origin .
  15. Yea. Just when through their other listings. Things are getting quite wild....
  16. I thought I might as well post this here while the topic is still hot. To be clear I have absolutely no intention on bidding on this violin (that HUGE back post crack is endgame for me). This is what got me into doubting how accurate Brompton's attribution to the region of origin is, as discussed above. The back looks fine, but the front is giving me some Dutch implications, or something else pretending to be Italian (though I am not an expert in this). The F holes look somewhat of a crude quality? (I understand that many late 18th century Italian instruments are of a relatively rougher
  17. "An Interesting NOT Fine Photo, possibly by Brompton's, circa 2020"
  18. I totally agree. A Strad and a Markie would look more or less the same on their photos.
  19. To me it looks more or less Dutch / Bohemian. I just thought it would be fun to post it here . Though I am not sure if that is a fake scroll graft. Looks to me the grains don't match.
  20. I have emailed Brompton's already. Though the greater part of this post is to learn from the experience of the community, but not solely learning about what Brompton's has to offer specifically. I am hoping to find people with more auction experiences to share their insights on these auction languages, or even the vision behind these auction houses. Duane and Jacob has put together a great response, Kudos to them . Though I do see where you are going for.
  21. Thanks to both Duane and Jacob. I think I now have a much better understanding of the general auction titling and terming now
  22. Thanks all for the input! Though I am sure "interesting" is nothing but a buzz word they use. My main question would be on the word "Italian". When an auction house claims a violin "Italian", (not "possibly Italian", but rather straight forward "Italian". i.e. An Italian violin), Does that usually mean the identification has been more or less confirmed? Or there is still a relatively open possibility for the instrument to be from other places? As Jacob suggests, "Continental European"?
  23. Lately I have been casually scrolling through listings for sale at some of the auction houses (specifically Brompton's and T2), and have found some listings being advertised with a geographic location. I.E. "Lot 341: An Interesting Italian Violin, second half of the eighteenth century" Since Brompton's only provides buyers with 3 photos: front, back, and the scroll, I find it quite convenient if they can identify the origin if I were to bid. However, I also wonder to what extent is this accurate? And yet if the reverse is true: If a violin is only advertised as "An Interesting V
  24. It looks funny and serious at the same time
  25. No definitely not the label. Though looking back to it now I think Dutch. I thought the construction looked somewhat Italian, but tbh it is really hard to tell from only the front and back images, with an unrelated scroll. The F holes are saying no to Italian too. Thanks WB!