Shelbow

Yeah Cozio is just a snap shot of info and some of it is quite old. I like it as a reference tool but you need to know it's limitations.

3 days of guitars at Gardiner now up. (UK) Gardiner Houlgate - June 15th (2022) - Guitars - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/f89ce001c6484c8f73abc0b703bc5a7c/63b778f7668dabe928d3800924a99077/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale-including-guitars-artist/ (UK) Gardiner Houlgate - June 16th (2022) - Guitars - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/f89ce001c6484c8f73abc0b703bc5a7c/aa3256dfaa581b83dd9a740d7ec8e30d/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale-including-guitars-artist/ (UK) Gardiner Houlgate - June 17th (2022) - Guitars - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/f89ce001c6484c8f73abc0b703bc5a7c/3dfe96b3d8514009372b34ed949e473e/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale-including-guitars-artist/

Yes I would agree, and I assume that it's most probably a dendro issue as you say. Although in some Tariso listings they do mention the dendro when there is a conflict with a certificate, although this is usually for very old certificates. You have much more experience in this field than I. Are there any other descrepancies that might cause them to be cautious other than a dendro?

You might also be able to get a new certificate from someone else stating that it's a Landolfi (depending what the supposed issues are). If it's a dendro issue then that's a different story.

If I ever have a child, I will get them to start issuing certificates from birth.

I have no idea what it is, but it looks very nice.

Thanks Peter that makes sense.

Thanks Peter, good to know. Is 2005 ish when things really started to take off?

Yeah I get the impression that it's a fairly ruthless operation. Still very impressive what they manage to bring to auction.

The Juliens guitar auction is mad. Kurt Cobain's guitar is up for sale and it's already at 2 million

Were any dealers dendro checking violins at this time (c1999), or was it still a bit too early? I see some of John Tophams research papers go back to at least 1998 (I assume there is earlier research as well).

Just noticed for those interested in guitars, that there is a massive music icons auction at Juliens auction house from 20th-22nd May. This includes the Alex Lifeson (Rush) guitar collection. (USA) Juliens - May 20th - 22nd (2022) - Musical Icons - Guitar collections including Alex Lifeson - https://www.julienslive.com/auctions/catalog/id/394

It's nice and still pretty old to be fair.

MOD HAT ON Dear all, Let's not escalate this discussion in an unnecessary way. I do not personally feel there is anything suspicious about the crime reported or the circumstances regarding the theft. I have dealt with similar scenarious in my time as operations manager for a Music Tech firm (Insurance claims) and also most recently in my role which deals with fine musical instruments. If there are any concerns about the case I am sure it will be reported by the authorities in due course. I do however completely understand that people like to speculate on news stories regarding instruments (myself included and guilty as charged), and I feel that people should have the right to openly discuss these things on Maestronet if they want. I do not believe anyone has accused any of the family of any wrong doing directly, they have merely speculated on the scenario based on what has been reported. I see no libellous comments and would advise all in general to avoid any language that might be considered inflamatory. This goes for all sides. It is clear that the quality of reporting on the article is extremely poor, this will no doubt have added to the suspicions of some members. I'm sure a more accurate first had acount of the situation would clarify the situation for all. Perhaps more details may become available at a later date. If you have any comments or concerns feel free to message me. Kind regards, Shelbow

Great stuff everyone, hope the sale goes well.