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  1. I think that the OP was a one and done. Lots of great replies considering the lack of information and pictures of the "Guarneri."
  2. YES! Thank you. I was thinking the same over the weekend. I remember that I never got the choice or opportunity to pick my own violin. My father would simply get one and it would have to do. I will let my son decide. Hopefully, the Attic Find is in the running with the ones he already narrowed down.
  3. I will. Once in hand, I will post good pics of all three.
  4. LOL I am also wondering. But, after all these years and having read enough threads on Maestronet, I will confidently guess German usual trade instruments. My borther is coming to see me in two weeks. No need for UPS or other shipping. Waste of money.
  5. Yes. I will want to get the work done on the Attic Find anyways, regardless of whether it will turn out to be a nice violin for my son. Thank you for the advice.
  6. Thank you. I already know that spending the $500 or so to get it back into playing condition is worth it. It has no visible cracks and is in very nice condition. I realize that I am asking for answers based upon loose information, but that is pretty much the meat and potatoes of online forums. Based upon the info that I have provided, I am seeking opinions.
  7. Preliminary notes: Yes. I already spent about 30 minutes on a simple google search and looked up as much info prior. Attic Find: My childhood home is being prepped to sell as my elderly parents need to downsize. In or around 1992, my father bought a violin from his friend for about $600. I played this violin for about a year and then cannot remember what happened to it. I remember that it sounded sweet, but not quite powerful. The violin came with a certificate of authenticity but I cannot remember where it would be. Fast forward to this morning--my mother told me that she had 3 violins to send to me. I asked her for pictures and to read the labels, but she is old LOL. The Violin: The violin (we will call it the "Attic Find" for now) is purported to be a French violin, very good condition. The label says (as the certificate of authenticity matched) Lutherie Artistique M. Couturieux. My mom cannot read much more than that, although the label is clear as day (her eyesight is bad). I remember the date being 1910. NO BOWS @PhilipKT Question: My son is ready to move onto a big boy violin. We have auditioned a great sounding, but not aesthetically pleasing, JTL Barnabetti, and some other really nice violins. My mom will be sending me the Attic Find in a couple of weeks. Once I get the violin, what of the following should I do? 1. Get it cleaned, sound post adjusted, new bridge, new strings, new fittings, and give to my son as his upgrade? Keep in mind that I remember liking the violin and thinking it sounded ok, but that was Suzuki Book 2 me decades ago. What did I know back then? 2. Try to sell it and just shell out the $5k or more on one of the violins we already auditioned and narrowed down? 3. Keep it AND shell out money for a new violin? I don't have a whole lot of additional information from my google search so additional commentary and information from the experts here are welcome. And I know, pictures would help but I just don't have the violin in hand yet.
  8. Perhaps "haggle" is too harsh a term. Is it acceptable to negotiate an instrument price at your local instrument shop? If so, what are the parameters? I do not want to rub the owner the wrong way nor simply accept the listed MSRP.
  9. Sorry to revive this topic, but my son recently dated a Barnabetti JTL, "Betty" as we call her. She was not the prettiest gal we had seen but she sang like Pavarotti on the low end and Mariah Carey from the mid to high end. My son is not shallow but for some reason, I am. I do not like the way this gal looks. Question, assuming the violin plays wells and is responsive, and assuming she sounds really good, would you buy this instrument for an intermediate level student who is your child?
  10. Yes. Yes he did. And after 3 minutes, you were more than welcome to stop listening.
  11. Have you seen the Eine Kleine by Roman Kim? This dude is amazing. And what's going on with his fingerboard? Looks like fret marks. And his use of the right thumb is great! I do this on the guitar but have never though to do it on the violin. And....I know, it is grammatically incorrect and/or frowned upon to start a sentence with "And." And, it is more than his technique and ability. He is thinking outside the box as to how to achieve certain sounds and phrases. The most impressive thing for me is that Mr. Kim has the mind to be able to orchestrate, transpose, and arrange a symphony to be played by a single violin.
  12. Before anyone starts their recommendations, etc., I have already decided on a new case. Question: Has anyone heard of a company called muzikus.sk? They seem to be the ONLY place with the case I want. Is it a legit company? No need to bash the company, just need to know if its legit. Thanks in advance!
  13. Temianka arranged the Fugue from Bach Violin Sonata no. 1 in G minor to be played by string quartet. It is wonderful.
  14. Poor comparison at best. Wayne and Garth were portrayed as idiots with very little intelligence. Brett and Eddy seem to be intelligent and many of their videos educate the public.
  15. They are relevant. They are learned. They are adept at the violin. They are funny. Age makes no difference in what they are doing. If their target demographic is give or take 5 years around the age of Brett and Eddy, then those followers will be of the same mind set and the humor, appeal, what-have-you, will remain relevant to at least THAT generation. Ultimately, they are popular and have brought classical music to a demographic that conventional means would have likely never reached. They can "get away" with whatever they can as long as the audience lets them. That is the answer.
  16. Slow doesn't mean easier or less flashy. Just finished learning the 2 Beethoven Romances and they were somewhat challenging.
  17. I needed that. Thank you Stephen.
  18. I recently began taking lessons as an adult learner. My learned repertoire already includes a few major concertos and a few Bach solo unaccompanied pieces. I just took a 20 year break and want to play at a high level again. My new teacher wants me to learn some "student" concertos like the Kabalevsky and De beriot 9. I really like both of them and have never played them. My ego (and no...I am not on any high horse) prevents me from really getting motivated to learn them. I am thinking the stigma of people calling these "student concertos" unreasonably weighs on me. Any advice or experiences? BTW- I will learn them, its just so difficult for me to be happy learning them.
  19. Anne Sophie Mutter's thumb position is not necessarily affixed to under the neck. If you watch her recordings, her thumb position is quite versatile and she places it where she needs for what she is doing at the moment. What is the real question here? What is your goal for asking? Are you trying to justify your own thumb position(s)? Or are you attempting something new because your current technique is not working? Perhaps the answer to these questions may help the post gain some momentum?
  20. Although not ideal, most Mozart and Beethoven symphonic pieces can be played without certain instruments. Timpani is your big one...I don't know of any Beethoven work for symphonic orchestra that does not utilize timpani.
  21. I have had teachers tell me to practice daily regardless of any obstacles. As an adult learner, I find myself being very unproductive if I am not in the mood to practice. I get tense and lose focus. Then, when I do get in the mood to practice, as a parent of two kids and two dogs, I find distraction after distraction. Thank goodness I am in the mood to practice more times than not. I have mixed feelings about daily practice if you are not a career musician.
  22. All of the above plus more. On an intellectual level, conductors and musicians do nuanced things in a piece that make the piece stand out. I guess this goes to "musical choice" as well. For example, tempo. Heifetz is my gold standard. But that doesn't mean he is my favorite. Aside from the talk about how his tempo was fast on most people for purposes of fitting works onto a 33 rpm record, he played pieces like Lalo Symphony Espagnole way fast...BUT, his faster tempo version of the Beethoven brings a different flair to the piece that Vengerov's ultra slow version does not (at least for me). Heifetz was also a master of the subtle glissando. He places glissandos in places no other artist does. Again, I refer to Beethoven's vln Cto as an example. On the emotional level, I think of it this way...a midi recording of Mahler's 1st symphony might be okay to listen to, but not like listening to Simon Rattle and the Berliner symphony orch. Even if a midi recording can mimic dynamics, it cannot necessarily mimic musical color, at least not through the midi technology I am aware of. Lastly, excitement can be somewhat personal. I absolutely love Midori's early recordings of Sarasate's Zapateado. It excites me. There is a YouTube of her playing this piece and the audience starts clapping when she plays the left hand pizz part lol! On the other hand, I do not get very excited listening to Midori's Bartok Roumanian Folk Dances. To me, her "musical choices"/interpretation does very little for me. Art is so very subjective. What may excite some people may not excite others. I don't necessarily think that this is a bad thing, but if art does not somewhat excite an audience in some aspect or another, does that mean it is mundane? Although I tend not to enjoy ambiguous and vague conversation, your "purposefully vague" original question is thought provoking.
  23. Heifetz. Exciting to listen to nothing to look at. In fact, his facial expressions seemed "cold and calculating." To me, "exciting" does not necessarily mean physical expression, but I can always appreciate someone like Maxim Vengerov.
  24. I agree with your 3 basic considerations. I am uncertain as to what your questions seeks? Exciting to whom? From a teacher's/student perspective, I see many students not so excited to learn pieces like the Accolay violin concerto in A minor or Viotti 23 as their introduction to Mozart. I too remember not liking these pieces. In that sense, I played them accurately and competently, but I was not satisfied. The applause from my recitals was standard obligatory applause. On the other hand, I remember watching a violin solo competition once where one student played the second mvt of the Tchaik Cto and another played the third. The one who played the second mvt played in tune, accurately, and performed well, but sounded very much like any other student version. The student who played the third mvt was not as in tune, made several mistakes, but he/she exuded excitement and enthusiasm. That student won a chance to perform. From an audience member's perspective, I still get chills watching Bernstein conduct the Brahms Academic Overture, but not so much with other conductor's versions. Is it the quirky dancing that Bernstein did? Is it the physical aspect of excited animation? I don't really know. When a violinist ends a fast third mvt of a concerto and releases his/her bow in a dramatic and flashy manner, does that excite me? Well, ashamedly yes. I guess I am a bit shallow like that. As to your comment about students requesting to play/learn Mozart, Beethoven, or Bach, I guess that really depends on the student's age, skill level, and stage in learning. I like challenging my students with big flashy composers and pieces, while knowing that they may not play them perfectly. I also know that they are pre-college and if they want to major in music, they will relearn these pieces. But you say "commitment"....perhaps a student who gets excited about being handed a Mozart or Bach piece might commit simply because it is now exciting? I am not disagreeing with your statements, I am just not entirely sure where you are going with this and what "excitement" is supposed to mean. In the meantime, I will search up those videos that you mention to get some insight as to what you are asking/proposing.
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