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  1. Delabo

    Puzzled Panormo?

    Could this be one of the Mittenwald violins imported during the continental blockade in the 19th century?
  2. Interesting. Experts. Could it be as early as 18th century?
  3. Sadly, you seemed determined to misrepresent what I have said, and I think that any attempts of mine to further explain my position would fall on deaf ears.
  4. This quote better explains what I mean. "Gennaro (or Januarius in the latin form found on his labels) was more flexible in has approach than most of his family. He made fairly close copies of Stradivari and Amati violins, which sometimes evade all the recognisable traits of other Neapolitan work" John Dilworth. https://www.bromptons.co/reference/articles/details/gennaro-gagliano.html
  5. I think we have crossed wires. That is not what I believe.
  6. Yes, I have often wondered if places like Milan and Naples used a refined form of built on the back construction to imitate inside mold?
  7. Yes, thanks for that reminder about that type of construction. So I guess the blocks could be stuck to the back and then cut to appear asymmetrical to imitate built on the back construction. So the answer to the OPs question is that a quick glance through the f hole will tell if its French or German.
  8. So Mirecourt Violins of the late 19th century are always outside mold? Even if they are trying to copy BOB construction?
  9. Would that help us to separate French from German? Shelbow posted a catalogue page that says that the Hawke & Son models were accurate copies, and Brescian violins used mostly BOB construction. This link to a Mirecourt copy of a Brescian violin seems to confirm this and appears to have been built using BOB construction........... https://www.corilon.com/gb/violins/rare-birdseye-maple-violin-after-maggini
  10. Good question. Length of back: 366mm?
  11. I am not so sure about that, it seems to go to the bitter end.....................
  12. Delabo

    Violin Id

    I am wondering if the top half of the label is original and was added to later in 1934 by Valot.? The top half of the label appears to be in an Art Nouveau type font which was still in use in 1914, and the bottom half tries to copy it. But notice that the "4" is different on the bottom half numerals...........
  13. Provide some more photos of the corner blocks but taken further back so that the whole of the bouts can be seen. It is necessary to know what way the asymmetry of the blocks points in relation to the bouts.
  14. I think you already have the general idea, but here is one your corners showing where I think I see a mitre.........................
  15. What can I do to help with that? You do not have to do anything. Mitred corners show if the violin was likely constructed on an inside or outside mold and can be used as a means of identifying a violin. I think I can see a mitre on one of the corners, but to be sure it would require better pictures. The type of internal corner block you show though usually points to it being constructed by the mainly German method of building on the back.
  16. Delabo

    Violin Id

    Maybe the person who made it was named "Humbert" and he went off to war before varnishing it and maybe never came back? It languished somewhere until 1934 when it was finished off and varnished by an unknown luthier \ repairer named "Valot" who worked in st. Leu-La-Foret on the outskirts of Paris?
  17. Delabo

    Violin Id

    Thanks for posting this. I would never have guessed from the external pictures of the corners that it was inside mould construction. It looks BOB from the outside. Why do you doubt the label? Does the violin not look like a nice Guarneri copy?
  18. A question for the experts. This violin has a centering notch carved into the back, but the rib join (which is very hard to see) does not appear to line up withe notch, so what was the purpose of these notches? Were they just used for a rough approximation of the centre?
  19. That's a pretty distinctive looking pegbox. Is there any reason to reject that this violin is not hand made by an individual rather than factory made? Maybe a Chinese luthier trained in Europe?
  20. Delabo


    Hi, I am not an expert so please do not take what I say as fact. The pegs look English, and the body is not purfled, so maybe it is also English. The caveat is that open bouts like you see on this violin are seen on some German violins which are also sometimes seen without purfling. I like the front view of the scroll, it looks nice. It will be interesting to hear the experts opinions. I have just noticed the f-hole notches are nicely cut.
  21. Thanks for posting the picture. A pin in the front table is often another indicator along with all the other clues that the violin was built on the back.
  22. I am in southern England, Reg is a bit further up country, but we both have the same understanding of the word, so I might say ...................................... hang on a "decco", I will look it up in a dictionary https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/dekko
  23. Hi Reg, what made you use "Bergonzi" in the title? does it have a label with that name on it? Its obviously not a Bergonzi as it appears to be BOB construction. Does it have a pin in the top near the saddle or is it just a mark? It may be the photos, but the varnish appears to have been manipulated in some way, or maybe it was antiqued that way from new.
  24. Interesting reply, and not what I expected, thanks.
  25. So the OP made the mistake of gluing the neck on with strong hide glue. How wold you go about reversing the process? I know that guitar necks are released using steam, but that would damage the varnish of a violin. So whats the procedure for a violin neck?
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