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  1. Just "two words" ? I thought you said that you inked over all of it ? So you only touched up two words.Which ones ? Sorry to cause offence, and if you say you inked over the label, I believe you. The trouble is, as I see it, that if the label was real, and you have inked over it all, then there is no way any longer to tell if it is real or a facsimile. Mr Saunders left his untouched for that very reason. Did you take photos of the label before you inked it over ?
  2. Mr Saunders has not said that it is correct. To do that he would have to see it in person. The label appears to be the same, but Blankface has gone on record to say it is a facsimile. I am not an expert, and so I defer to Blankface who is one.
  3. Yes, I agree, it can be hard to tell sometimes. I am unable to see the actual rib joins, too much varnish. So I guess we are then left with are they square and upright enough to be outside mold. ? Probably not. Inside mold can look a little more loose,less rigid, but these may be less thick in the centre, which is unlikely to happen with inside mold - or it could just be the light making it look that way ? Maybe very well executed BOB that is made to look like inside mold as opposed to quickly put together mass produced BOB might be the answer ?
  4. Are you sure ? It looks like inner or outer Mold to me after zooming right in.
  5. It looks like a new violin to me, and the label looks very unconvincing. Nice fiddle though.
  6. I am glad you cleared that up, as I was naive enough to zoom right into that label to see how it had been inked over. I seriously thought that this guy must be a genius to make such a good job of it. It also makes me feel a bit more at ease about a very similar label that I looked at in a violin at a local auction house a couple of months ago. That one purported to be 18th century French, and was advertised as such. But on close examination the violin had all the hall marks of the "usual", but the label was like this one in blue hand written ink and was extremely convincing.
  7. I see that Blankface has suggested that it could be "slab cut" maple, which could explain the beautiful figure that looks ,like walnut.
  8. I am no wood expert, and certainly not when it comes to maple, but your maple back bears a strong resemblance to walnut. Have look at this cropped photo of your violin....................
  9. Is the stunning back real walnut or painted on to look like it ?
  10. So are we looking at a Schonbach violin that was purchased in the white ? And the edge was later modified with a router and the edge scoop deepened, and then the violin was varnished ? It looks a nice violin until we see the delta on the back of the scroll and the split bottom rib which let it down.
  11. Delabo

    Violin Id

    Is this not a very shallow trench that you see on some built around blocks violins ? I seem to remember seeing something like this very shallow trench before somewhere. Or is it just the light ?
  12. Delabo

    Violin Id

    What other method is there to try and identify the origin of a violin ? With the top appraisers like Charles Beare, are they not going through a vast mental list of features ? And by that I mean construction method - arching - varnish - idiosyncrasies - the certain little things like purfling corners - wood types - LOB etc - etc - etc ? Lets be fair. Your ex boss hid all the stuff he did,. jandepora is putting it out there for the whole world to see. He consults experts, including the ones on this forum and has dendros done. Totally transparent. I hope he eventually does turn up something good, he deserves it for all the hard work he puts in.
  13. Delabo

    Violin Id

    With a dendro list like that, surely its a matter of crossing out who did not make it by looking at their construction methods ? Did any of those makers use BOB to make their instruments ? Maybe Rombouts ? But I think he put a groove in the back which is missing on yours.
  14. Buying companies so as to keep using the brand name is very common. So Laberte bought the rights to the name and stamp and carried on using the Derazey stamp and labels.
  15. I have thought about, it but your joke is not resonating with me. Maybe to a geologist its "hill-areas" !
  16. I had already come to the conclusion that the the combination of inner and outer rib mitres was because of the construction process. I had also come to the conclusion that the most likely method was the French built around the block construction. As to why it would end up with mixed mitres was,and, still is a puzzle for me. Perhaps you can explain it ? In fact the internal rib construction of my violin is not the same as the OP's, although it has been confirmed as circa 1820. I am in no way suggesting that mine is French, nor built around blocks, its just that I am pleased to see that such a construction consists after posting a question about it. This is my original post...........
  17. Thanks for posting these pictures, they answer a question that has puzzled me for a number of years. I started a thread a while back to ask about a combination of inside and outside mitres on a violin I own. This violin has the same mitres as mine. The bottom C-bout mitre is inside and the top C-bout mitre is outside.
  18. I thought you were Scottish ?
  19. Looks like it once had an unusual saddle ? Or is there a better explanation ?
  20. I can concur with some of what you say. I have an old violin that has a problem with the case that causes the violin edge to be knocked every time it is removed if a person is clumsy in removing it. But I am very careful how I take the violin out and have avoided any further damage. And I am quite sure that you also would have been a very careful previous owner if it had been your violin. I can understand what you are saying if the violin was cheap, people can be careless with cheap junk, but I would expect that someone who bought an expensive violin would know how to look after it at all times.
  21. Surely you meant very poorly executed screwdriver ageing ? Its hard to believe that anyone would be fooled by it. And anyway, why do these bodgers think that an old violin is going to be covered in that sort of abuse ? I have just looked at my 1820 violin and it has very few marks on it even though it has obviously been well used during its long life. Thats why violins come with cases.
  22. I can no longer browse without logging in first. Is this the same for everybody else ? On the other hand if we click on the "Online Users" box at the top it shows numerous "guests" who presumably are not registered users browsing content. How are they doing that ?
  23. If Maurice W Riley the musician and author is still with us I guess he must be very old now. He does mention David Burgess in the book "The history of the viola" on page 3. Its available to read for free at internet archive, David gets a mention on page 305 along with two other up and coming makers "David Wiebe and Otto Schenk". They are there called "three young American luthiers". Sounds a bit like the "three musketeers" or even better " The three Amigos". (Great film). https://archive.org/details/historyofviola01rile/page/304/mode/2up
  24. Keep it to yourself and don't let him know, but I think D.B. is quite good at this stringed instrument making thing. The scroll is pretty much perfect in every way. In fact the whole instrument is nigh on perfection. I can see why you want it. I think the estimate is going to prove to be on the low side. Its a beautiful instrument.
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