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Delabo

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  1. Your violin is not "the usual" late 19th century violin, its more likely circa 1800, and therefore not made in the same way. But the only things that seems to depart from the "usual" is the one piece bottom rib, which is obviously harder to implement using the BOB method, but apparently not impossible, and maybe also the shiny black purfling. It would be interesting to know what the shiny purfling is made from.
  2. How would it be technically possible to enlarge a violin all around its circumference? Its hard to see because of the resolution, but the grain of what would be the added wood appears to match the grain of the main body. This can best be seen at the back corner with grain clearly running across the purfling to the outside edge. I believe it can also be see on the front as the grain runs upward at the corners. Would these pictures not indicate that the extra line is a scribed line?
  3. Delabo

    " Grancino"

    Ok, I have looked at the pictures in that thread,and the open violin in the photo there is inside mould, and the OPs violin looks to be BOB, so I see your point. You mentioned "copie" earlier, did these copys go as far as to use hand made purfling? The Ops violins purfling wanders all over the place and is obviously not factory made stuff. And what were they making copys of? Does this one bring any particular school to mind?
  4. Delabo

    " Grancino"

    Any reason that you have ruled out that it is a violin from the Glatz/Silesia region (Graftschaft Glatz) with its open bouts?
  5. Delabo

    " Grancino"

    I am not an expert, but to me it does not look like a late 19th century "usual". More like an early 19th century Saxon violin of some description. The label is obviously fake but looks like it has been in their a long time.
  6. I have never carved a scroll. Did you miss my last suggestion "by design"? When I first saw the scroll this morning, my first reaction was that the scroll was intentioanally carved that way "by design". Look back in the thread and you will see that I wrongly attributed the violin as Markneukirchen circa 1920 because I thought it was copying an old Italian scroll by some one like Del Gesu, as @violinsRus has just pointed out. So, nope, I like it.It has character.
  7. As the violin has now been identified as being old,(Thumhardt or Duke school)what causes the chattering that we see in the scroll? Blunt chisel? Old man? Child? Speed of execution? Just came back from the pub? Incompetence? By design?
  8. Something about the scroll graft, the pegholes repairs, the chattering in the scroll and the slightly stubby corners give me the impression that maybe it came out of the factory that way. Maybe 1920's better quality markie? But I am not an expert and it will be interesting to see what they say. Nice buy !
  9. Maybe the OP is thinking about the construction method used? Cheaper Chinese violins mostly seem to be built using outside mould construction, but this appears to be made using an inside mould. I agree that it’s new and probably Chinese made.
  10. Are you seeing British features in the OP violin?
  11. oops! I had to read my answer a couple of times to see the error you are pointing out. I of course meant to say “something you never see in Mittenwald violins”.
  12. Ah! but I have been very well taught by your good-self that one feature alone is not enough to ID a violin. I think we are agreed that my violin has the many features that add up to ID its humble status. But I take your point that very fine violins can have carved bass bars.
  13. Not questioning your expertise, but carpenters blunt there nails so as not to split wood, so why would it be different for this task?
  14. The back is nice, and it makes it more surprising that this violin was built without corner blocks, something you see in Mittenwald violins. But it does have a glued in bass bar unlike the very bottom grade that are chiselled out from the top wood. Here is one I have that shows the carved out bass bar and "Beaver chewed" top, with fake bottom corner blocks. It is Czechoslovakian which I guess dates it to post 1918.
  15. You need to zoom in further. Also, the front wood is much softer and has broken or worn away on the corners which takes the bee stings with it. But if you zoom in on those worn corners you can still see the remnants of the bee stings. Front and back pictures for comparison.
  16. Delabo

    Violin for id

    I thought my point was clear enough. I was suggesting that the violin looked Austrian and not German, which is why I suggested "Vienna". I thought that perhaps you included Austria within "Saxony".
  17. Delabo

    Violin for id

    What is a "swung pegbox"? I am surprised that you give this a "Saxony" attribution. Does the term "Saxony" include countries other than Germany, such as Vienna?
  18. Delabo

    Violin for id

    I thought at first that the pegbox was blackened like we see in German violins, but with a little bit of brightening it appears that the pegbox might have been varnished with the same varnish that is on the violin. Perhaps the OP could confirm what the pegbox has been painted with?
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    Violin for id

    Love the scroll. No idea what it is. What made you think French?
  20. Oh dear, of course, I never could have even thought of such an idea. The violin biz gets more and more complicated the more you look into it. You need to be a great detective like Sherlock Holmes. Thank you for sharing that.
  21. I can see how someone could have inserted the top pin because the purfling is cut close by, but how did they get the bottom one in? There does not appear to be a visible cut there. Melt the purfling glue and lift it enough to drill a hole and put a pin in the hole? Or maybe the purfling is cut under the chin rest which is not visible in the picture. On closer examination maybe the pin is not actually under the bottom purfling.
  22. Maybe because its a Its a puzzler? Gagliano with pins under the purfling? later pins and purfling?
  23. How would a luthier fix this? How do you decide what the varnish on the violin is composed of? Would a tiny drop of french polish in the nick fix it, is it that a no-no?
  24. The bottom rib appears to be split. My understanding is that outside mould construction is normally a split rib, so how does that help in differentiating from a markie which also has a split rib? Are the saddles different? Or are you eliminating inside mould construction?
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