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  1. PEG-ology

    A wild idea. Perhaps a sailor on a whaling boat needed new pegs for his violin to play shanties with. He found some suitable wood onboard and carved them by hand with his sharp knife ? Bitumen would make a handy sealant for seafaring use to help stop the damp wood swelling ?
  2. PEG-ology

    From a non expert point of view,they are rather crude and clearly very old. Not the sort of thing that you expect of good quality instruments from Italy or even Saxon. Have you identified the wood ? Is it a fruitwood ? Box ? Oak ? What is the black paint that has been used ? bone black ? carbon black ? Whatever pigment was used it appears to have an oil type composition,or perhaps it is shiny because of age and constant rubbing. It looks almost bituminous. To sum up, it does not look to untrained eyes to be something that a trained luthier would have made,the pegs looks like an amateur country hand. Now all the experts will turn up to show how very wrong I am !
  3. beyond economic repair ?

    Yes he did,according to the author of the book " American Luthier: The Art and Science of the Violin" by Quincy Whitney. In that book on page 86 it says that Francois Chanot was a naval engineer who in 1818 employed J.B Vuillaume to make his guitar shaped violins. Vuillame stopped making these violins in 1823 for Chanot and set up in business on his own.
  4. beyond economic repair ?

    Hi, I have tried looking with a camera,but I cannot see a pencil inscription. But if yours has the same name,burnt or inked in the same manner as mine,then they are likely of the same circa date. As far as I know,Chanot was not not a luthier himself,so maybe he commissioned others to make them on his behalf ?
  5. beyond economic repair ?

    Hi, I have no idea what "ovroid plastic" is,as an internet search did not yield a positive result. But I have just had a look at the binding with a jewellers loupe in strong sunshine. It does not appear to have a grain,but it does have little longitudinal lines which may be varnish that has cracked. I tried a red hot pin on it,and afterward,viewing it using the jewellers loupe, I can see tiny pin pricks which are not visible to the naked eye. However, it did not melt or burn or smell like plastic.
  6. beyond economic repair ?

    They can ask for that sort of money,but whether they ever find a buyer is another matter. I should point out that Chanot copies are being made in China. https://guide.alibaba.com/shop/copy-of-violin-lab-georges-chanot-paris-1819-rare-d-z-strad-428_59887277.html
  7. beyond economic repair ?

    Hi again, I do have a name for mine "MALINE". As it has a well known French name,I have always assumed it was French,but who knows ?
  8. beyond economic repair ?

    Hi, My violin is not a Chanot,it has the internal firebrand of "Maline". As I am sure you are aware the "Maline" family were French Mirecourt lutheriers. Whether this particular Maline was making violins on behalf of Chanot,or was merely copying them,I do not know. But I believe that Chanot patented his violin,and this one seems identical to his,and so it seems unlikely that Maline would go down that route. But who knows ?
  9. Too well constructed unfortunately. Have a look over on the "pegbox" forum where I have posted "beyond economic repair". My chanot type violins bass bar is broken,and unlike a normal cremona style violin,very much harder to repair.
  10. beyond economic repair ?

    Thanks for all your replies. The consensus seems to be that a repair of sorts is possible but it is going to cost a lot . Perhaps it explains one reason why chanots idea never took off,because of the need for repairs down the line. The classic violin with overhanging plates is so much easier to repair ! I think my best course of action is to put it back in its case and retire it to the attic (the traditional home of old violins) and forget about it. Out of interest,although there is no evidence that the top has ever been off,there is damage to the wood purfling at the neck root where it looks like someone tried putting a knife in and had better thoughts about it ! Do you think that this would be the best place to attempt a repair ? Hopefully the ivory multi binding would come off the with top plate and remain intact. The damaged purfling could be removed and fitted with new when replacing the top.
  11. beyond economic repair ?

    I wish that just £200 did cover the repairs ! My experience with my local luthier is that hopefully it might cost "X" amount providing that ......... caveat - caveat - caveat......... lol. I can see a repair bill of £1000 quite easily. And no guarantee of what the repair is going to look like given the difficulty of this type of material.
  12. beyond economic repair ?

    Thanks for that advice ! I see no reason for trying to bend it,unless of course it goes out of shape if I manage to remove it intact. I just have this sinking feeling it will snap while trying to remove it.
  13. beyond economic repair ?

    Many thanks for your replies. The reason I am asking if it is beyond economic repair is because I paid £420 for it a few years ago,and I had it valued a few months back at just £200. Although I like playing the violin I have no wish to throw good money after bad for purely sentimental reasons. In the UK I am likely to receive a hefty repair bill for a violin that is worth very little. The valuer did not mention the bass bar crack,but if he had then surely the valuation would have been zero. Therefore I see my only option is to either attempt a self repair and risk throwing it in the dustbin.or just selling it for a minimal price. Since posting here I have looked at the multi part binding with a jewellers loupe and it has wood purfling with what I have always assumed to be ivory.Is this the most likely material for it to be ? And is ivory flexible or prone to just snapping ?
  14. beyond economic repair ?

    My circa 1835 guitar shaped violin has developed a crack along the bass bar. I had a look inside with a camera and the bass bar has detatched half way along its length. Normally (with my limited skill set) I would remove the top and reglue the bass bar,but this violin has a very neatly applied ivory edge and I beleive it is way beyond my ability to even attempt a repair. Taking into account the likely value of the violin I am wondering if it is beyond economic repair. I should add that the violin has a wonderful tone,and I miss playing it.
  15. Upgrading old cheap violins.

    Great job! Like all gifted people you make it look easy.