Wood Butcher

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    machine made violins also CNC "Betts"

    I agree Reg, as I wrote in my previous post, I think people would be more accepting of CNC at certain price. Once in the realm of the individual maker, I think a lot of people would be turned off by this.
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    Oh Dear 2

    A cheap French violin, with a Spanish name makes it......... Italian? Linky "Bow is also quite early" I guess they mean early 1980's Linky
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    machine made violins also CNC "Betts"

    I think you raise some very good points, and will undoubtedly come under fire from the machine crowd for making them. We live at a time, where the technology is becoming extremely convenient, and also relatively affordable now. It's natural people will take advantage of this, and I think almost all makers will use some form of powered tool, be it a drill or a bandsaw for example. Like you, I see the CNC as something which goes against the ethos of a handmade instrument. I'm sure they are difficult to program and costly to maintain, so it's not necessarily a simple thing to use at all. It's a lot of work, but in a different way. I think the acceptability of using something like a CNC probably varies from country to country, and also price point. In my country, I doubt too many people would be impressed to find a maker charging $15,000 equivalent for a machined instrument, if it was $3000, maybe that's ok with them. In USA it seems CNC is quite widespread, and happily accepted by many. I can see why as a musician, you value the human touch of the maker, their decision making as the work progresses, the feel for the materials used, and the ability to adapt accordingly. Above all, their passion, experience and skill. These are the things which make having an instrument made by hand a unique experience, and I don't think it can really be had when the hand work is confined to scraping the machining marks from a piece of wood. Because of the effort required, i'm sure there will be less and less people hand making as time goes on, it seems inevitable, and I think the violin world will be much the worse for it. Already there are probably enough violins in the world, every shop is full of them, homes with unused violins in the attic or garage. We need quality, rather than only quantity, and I hope that handmade will always be valued more in peoples hearts and souls. Some will say an instrument is only a tool to make the music, so why does it matter. I would say it does matter, because of the way music touches us all, and how it can make us feel inside.
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    My bass bar is pregnant...

    I think Don was asking if the piece added is directly under the bridge.
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    It's getting more complicated by the minute A carpenter here would make something from wood, a builder using bricks or stone. Depending on how tall that sandwich is, building could be the correct term. I've seen an American show on tv called Man v Food, some of the sandwiches and burgers needed sticks as scaffolding to hold it up!
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    It's tongue in cheek, the smiley is the international sign for humour is it not? I think Andrew has it right, but every time I read it, it gives me a smile.
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    I see a lot of references on MN to building a violin. I would consider building a house "building", and "making" a violin would seem a more realistic term. For those who do consider themselves violin builders, do you use this term on your business cards and letterheads? Do you keep all of your tools in the back of a truck?
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    Oh dear...

    The violin is unpurfled, and in this case, it has been painted on. As the edges get worn, the paint wears off. A Milanese instrument wouldn't have painted purfling would it?
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    Is this violin really worth $5000?

    Rue, what I'm talking about may be hard to see, but once you've noticed it, you'd spot it everytime. Grain reversal means that the wood between the grain lines which you'd usually see, is now darker, or as dark as the grain lines. This is what happens when spruce is stained. Because it's arched, some areas of the belly have more end grain exposed, and more stain soaks in here, giving a blotchiness to the colour. With a varnish which is coloured this should not happen, and the central strip of the purfling would not be lighter than the rest.
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    Is this violin really worth $5000?

    Yes, from the blotchy appearance of the belly and reversed grain, it looks like the instrument was stained, and clear varnish over this. The very pale purfling is also pointing to this.
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    Oh dear...

    The description and justification for this one is just making me cringe, particularly the part about scrolls https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wonderful-Milanese-18th-Century-Italian-violin-lab-Joseph-Antoni-Finolli-1755/183496496465?hash=item2ab93e5551:g:mbEAAOSw0JpV7FfC:rk:2:pf:0
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    A Tribute to Neil Ertz

    Is it a particular type of rosin?
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    Plane for plate joining

    Recently there was a plane related thread. Planes
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    Shell Figured Maple...

    I don't know for sure, but I believe it's the same maple commonly found in Bosnia and the surrounding areas. It is frequently used, and will make a good instrument. I think that it is a type of light figure quilt showing on slab cut pieces. Often called shell maple, or sometimes referred to as blister figure. Strong quilted figure is not found too often in Europe species it would seem.
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    Optimizing Tone on Violins with Widely Spaced F-holes

    This is what I was wondering. Maybe the bar placement is fairly standard despite the slightly wider eyes.