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  1. Hello. I'm only an enthusiast and taking on a first time violin restoration project and hoping to learn as much as I can in the process. I had posted this in the Pegbox, but I'm wondering if this forum would be more appropriate (still a newbie here). I'm looking for feedback on my latest attempt at putting in acceptable cleats. Please comment and critique. All feedback is eagerly welcomed (anything from, "wow, those are terrible you waste of an amateur, a beaver could carve those better" to "yeah, that'll hold," to "yes, nice job") I have a few more cracks to fix, but I'd like to be close to doing a decent enough job before I continue with the other cracks. Thanks
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    my next attempt at acceptable cleats. How do these look? Also, is there a time for diamond cleats as opposed to parallelograms? Is the shape a matter of function or preference, or combination?
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    I see, I should have realized that. Thanks for pointing out my mistake, I do appreciate it. I've removed them all, and I'll attempt it again, hopefully with better results.
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    Good evening. Awhile ago I started a thread about repairing an old unknown family violin and received some good feedback. My progress is now underway. One of my beginning tasks was to replace some old enormous cleats with better sized ones on a few belly cracks. I've attached the new cleats on one such crack. I am looking for comments, critiques, criticisms, or compliments on the new job to see if I'm headed in the right direction. So, if you care to provide some input, how does this look? Also, if you are interested in keeping tabs on my progress and providing feedback along the way, please follow this thread. Hopefully in the next number of months this violin project will be completed. Thanks, kurt
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    Here are some detailed pictures, hopefully improvement over the first few (and a wishful thinking one with the hardware I picked out for it). Do these help narrow down this as a Mark? Something else? I'll take the recommendations on the repair process. It would be great to get my hands on a Weisshaur/Shipman ...pricey though huh! Yikes. Not sure I can swing that one at the moment.
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    I'll work on higher definition pictures and post them soon. I've really appreciated everyone's response on this so far. From what I've gathered, I think the following steps will outline my approach. If I am wrong, please, please advise otherwise. Naturally each of these steps will take me lots of time to research, practice, and then do, but given my carpentry background and my instrument work so far, I'm fairly confident I can pull it off well. 1. remove all cleats and bass bar and undo all cracks and clean out old glue 2. remove top splinters stuck on ribs and reattach to top. 3. re-glue cracks with a strong hide glue (probably 315) 4. re-graduate top 5. maybe re-graduate back (can this be done without removing the back?) 6. form new bass bar 7. put it new cleats (including under where bass bar will be) 8. replace formed bass bar and fit over cleats 9. reattach top with a slightly weaker hide glue 10. Bush peg holes and redo pegs (blending in a new finish on bushings) 11. Shoot the fingerboard 12. new nut and saddle 13. Full set up (bridge, sound post, hardware...) 14. Open up a bottle of wine Sound about right?
  7. Cello neck and fingerboard finishes

    Thanks for the tip. So oiling of some sort is preferred given a moist hand?
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    Thanks for the perspective George. So, if this project is ever completed, realistically, a new set of strings will be worth more than the instrument. However, while the instrument may not be really worth it, the restoration practice for an amateur wanting to learn the craft could be a valuable learning experience (without the risk of ruining and actually nice instrument)? If nothing else, in the case was a bow i had restored by a local luither who estimated the bow around a $500. So, if all I get out of the find is a decent practice bow, and a valuable learning experience, that could be worth my time. (Unless the mineral deposits magically turn it into a golden egg...) Would any others like to comment on that perspective?
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    Hi Jeff. Thanks very much for your input and recommendation. I have a lot of work cut out for me, but it will hopefully lead to a rewarding challenge. I'll spend some time in the archives. I'll tell my daugher to stop growing for a while, but I do have a 3 yr old that actually starts lessons next week (so worst case I have about 12 years to finish this project - ha!) If I posted better pictures, do you think you could narrow down a confirmation on its origin? If so, let me know what pictures and angles you would like to see and I'll get them posted. If it is in fact a Markneukirchen, do you have a guess on what window of value it would have, assuming it was properly restored? Are we talking under $200, under $1000? thanks, Kurt
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    Thanks Gillam for the advice. I was wondering how to address the torn off top plate pieces, so thanks for answering a question I hadn't asked yet. Yes, I did copy the old cleats in the assumption that they knew what they were doing (perhaps that was my mistake). I'll be sure to look into the archives for crack repairs. It will be a fun project. My daughter is currently in a 3/4 violin, and if she could use her great grandfathers violin when she moves up, well, that could be pretty special. Thanks again.
  11. Cello neck and fingerboard finishes

    After some reading I think I will go with a linseed oil rub. What's the best kind of linseed oil to use? I've read to avoid boiled. What about Sunnyside Raw linseed oil? Has anyone used that? It's available at local hardware stores which would be convenient.
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    Thank Baroquecello. Three cheers from learning from the more experienced. That's why I'm here. I attached closeups of the bass bar. The cleats do not go under, though if I had to replace it, I was thinking of doing that, so at least I was thinking along the right lines. The newer cleats are too large. I was planning on shaving them down to a better size, just hadn't gotten to it yet. Thanks though.
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    Holes range from 7.96 - 8.2mm at the widest openings. Is that outside an acceptable diameter? I was half anticipating having to put in new bushings. Though i do have peg blanks that are wide enough to fit. If I bush them, I will also need to match the finish well enough, but matching the finish will be for another day.
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    Thanks Nick for the feedback. I'm glad I posted this. I'm not questioning at all, just a beginner trying to learn, but what is it about the bass bar from the picture that makes you say it will need to be replaced? There is an old crack along it's edge which was fixed some time ago. Is it a matter of removing the bass bar, further reinforcing the old crack, and replacing the bar to better stabilize the top plate (and not rely on the old repair to the the job?) Could new bass bar be shaped wider at the bottom, or it's position shifted a few mm to better support the old crack without compromising the function of the bass bar?
  15. I am attempting to restore an old damaged family violin. I do not know much about it. I used to be my grandfather-in-law's violin and is at least 50 years old. It had some repair work (top plate cracks and peg box repair) done on it circa 1970's, but that's really a big guess. It was damaged in a flooded basement maybe 15ish years ago, and I came across it a few years back and I'm finally getting to it. I'm wondering 1. If anyone would have any insight into it's origin, 2. if, after looking at these pictures, there are any suggestions, advice, or hints, on repairing this. I'm wondering if I should bother trying to repair the upper right bout that is worn, or leave it as is. From what I can tell, the top plate cracks need finishing, then reattached, a new nut and saddle, and a set up. The top plate has a number of old repairs, plus a few new ones of mine that i just started. I have a set of rosewood pegs, tailpiece, and chin rest that I will look terrific on it once completed.