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  1. From the VSA:

    Dear VSA Colleagues and Friends,

    Please read this urgent message sent to us by colleagues from The AFVBM (American Federation of Violin and Bow Makers) regarding recent developments affecting the pernambuco trade. This will directly impact all string players, teachers, bow makers, violin makers, dealers and anyone else whose livelihood depends on strings instruments and bows.

    On June 23, Brazil proposed to CITES that Pernambuco be moved from Appendix II to Appendix I.  Brazil's proposal will be reviewed by CITES during a meeting on November 14-25, 2022, in Panama City, Panama. Please find a linked copy of Brazil's proposal here: https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZpLwLVZ4a2aKoU2thjWhP3dWVBtrLLEl0vV

    We are engaging with management authorities to learn more about the regulatory implications of Brazil's proposal. Pernambuco is currently listed on CITES Appendix II. Under that listing, finished pernambuco bows do not require CITES permits for international trade unless they contain other materials (e.g., monitor lizard) for which a permit is required. Our understanding is that, if Pernambuco is listed on Appendix I, international commercial trade and movement of Pernambuco bows would require CITES export and import permits. Obtaining permits would require proof that the wood has been legally sourced and that its trade would not be detrimental to the species - difficult burdens to meet. And certain types of trade could be prohibited altogether.

    Brazil's stated goal is to stop of the illegal exportation and importation of pernambuco bow blanks and bows. The evidence of illegal activity in Brazil is extremely disturbing and now poses a very direct threat to our trade.  We are analyzing the CITES proposal to understand Brazil's intentions, whether the words used in the proposal are consistent with Brazil's intentions, and the proposal's potential impact on trade. We are also gathering information about the trade and preparing a response strategy. We will express support for rules that both halt illegal trading of Pernambuco and enable continued legal trade. 

    EILA has been represented during CITES proceedings since 2013.  We have collaborated with other music industry stakeholders to build understanding and promote policies (for rosewood and elephant ivory, e.g.) that consider the needs of our trade and the music sector. In the past year, we have helped to form a new entity, the International Alliance of Violin and Bow Makers for Endangered Species (the "Alliance").  We have also supported for many years the International Pernambuco Conservation Initiative. Now, more than ever before, we need to focus our trade on the conservation and sustainable use of essential natural resources.   

    We are also working closely with a large number of music sector partners, including the League of American Orchestras, Chambre Syndicale de la Facture Instrumentale and many other music and musician organizations, to advance our trade's views and position.

    We must be honest: the weight of evidence of the threatened status of the species and illegal activity will make it very difficult to avoid the imposition of significantly stronger controls on Pernambuco.  We will make every effort, however, to build the strongest case for our profession. In this connection, we will come back to you with periodic requests for information and also with updates. 

    Beyond CITES, and no matter what regulations guide our trade in the future, we must take this opportunity to raise educate our communities, to stand up against illegal trading, and to be a force for the conservation of Pernambuco, which is highly endangered. The stakes are high for each of us: young, experienced, retired, luthiers, bow makers and musicians. Please share this message with all your colleagues as the future of music is in jeopardy. 

    Should you have any questions, please communicate directly with Alliance USA via Daniel Weisshaar president@alliance-usa.org and Charles Rufino GeneralSecretary@alliance-usa.org

    Best regards,

    Bill Scott

    President, The VSA

  2. There are auctions in France that annually sell dozens and dozens of these kinds of violins very cheaply. There are sellers on eBay who apparently have a business model of buying these violins and bows, and then re-selling them on eBay at a profit. Some of them are "tarted-up" with fake brands, labels, and antiquing; others are simply flipped directly as-is.

     

  3. Incident Report #: 22020252

    Rowlett Police Dept.

    Officer Fleck - 972-412-6200

    Photos of the violin

    Please be advised that a violin was stolen. It is a Carlo Bergonzi 1742 violin. It was purchased at auction and stolen by a UPS driver while in transit. The matter is being handled by the Criminal Investigating Division of the Rowlett, TX police.

    Carol-Ann Winegar

    carolann.winegar@hotmail..com

    651-210-6651

     

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    Violin Society of America
    14070 Proton Rd.
    Suite 100
    Dallas, TX 75244
    972-233-9107 x224
    info@vsaweb.org 

  4. 39 minutes ago, baroquecello said:

    Sound is not a factor for valuation of anything historic, or anything more expensive. However in the lower price catechories, it is certainly an important factor.

    Even in the world of retail violins, sound is not a factor in the price. It may certainly be a factor in the selection of a particular violin by a particular customer (e.g. between 2 identical Jay Haides, using WB's example), but it won't be a factor in the wholesale price paid or the price the dealer charges.

  5. 1 hour ago, jacobsaunders said:

    Now, there's an "un-ethical" question:D

    It is not unethical, but it is certainly rude. Price discussions on MN usually descend into heated madness, and the OP is under no obligation to respond. I recommend that she not.

    27 minutes ago, reg said:

    As per VDM prices are often based on:

    a) Build and Provenance 60%

    b)  Sound (incl setup) 40%

    I doubt that @Violadamore ever wrote that. But there are dozens of violin dealers with catalogs on-line selling similar merchandise that you can use to satisfy your curiosity as to how similar instruments are priced. 

    "Sound" is subjective and malleable, and has little-to-no influence on the price of a violin. "Provenance" is unknown for most violins, and even if it were known, the chain of previous owners of most violins would have no influence on the price. Provenance only affects value if one of the previous owners was famous, infamous, or well-regarded for some reason. Search "Einstein's violin," for example.

  6. On 6/25/2022 at 7:16 AM, vickiq said:

    Oh, yes I do. I should make a statement in the first post. 

    Good, and thank you for following up. It is a nice-looking fiddle, and as others have said, I would not worry about the size. If it fits your daughter and your budget, then it looks like you have a keeper.

    On 6/25/2022 at 7:05 AM, Strad O Various Jr. said:

    that's complete rubbish with no legal backing

    Nobody said anything about it being illegal. There are plenty of things that are both legal and unethical. 

  7. 14 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

    If the gentleman is considering to buy something, it is perfectly reasonable for him to seek a third opinion. Curious “Ethics”.

    It is perfectly reasonable to do privately. It is unethical to post a violin you don't own without permission on a public forum for discussion by people who may erroneously, ignorantly, or deliberately disparage the instrument causing financial harm to owner of the instrument.

    Not all "third opinions" are qualified or useful or correct or made in good faith. 

  8. 2 hours ago, Beginner Violinist said:

    The right one (my Tonica, the suspect) has various spelling errors such as: "sush", "favorit", "jucy", and "Ecah". There are also various capitalization and spacing error, unlike the left one (my Chromcor, as comparison).

    Those certainly are suspicious!

  9. You should be able to find pictures of authentic packaging on the internet to compare your products with. You could also post pictures here for people to compare with known authentic products.

    In fact, posting pictures of putative counterfeit products could be a service to the community.

    4 hours ago, Beginner Violinist said:

    Or is it just an outdated genuine packaging? (especially for the rosin. There are no typos there)

    Manufacturers do change their product packaging and text from time-to-time, so different packaging does not necessarily indicate counterfeit products.

  10. On 6/16/2022 at 2:41 PM, Theghostis said:

    On the subject of the Caspari pegs,

    If the Caspari pegs are in good working order, then there is really no reason to replace them besides aesthetics. It is not an inexpensive proposition to replace them.

    It definitely needs a professional set-up.. 

    In the 1970s, some Roth 1700 models substituted a paper label bearing the oval logo and serial number for the actual branding in the back. Does yours have a brand or a paper label?

     

     

  11. Awwww, nobody likes my new bow. image.gif.0b7ab8979f15ae40dc1e1593fa3e136b.gif

    Oh, well, the price was right. 

    Regardless, it is interesting that the frog with the narrow slide combined with the round ferrel doesn't seem familiar to anybody else here. Maybe it was made by an autodidact.;)  Anyway, apparently not a common mass-produced frog, and probably for good reason.

    Thanks for your comments.

  12. 28 minutes ago, Wood Butcher said:

    There seems to be something about human nature, which drives people to spend thousands of hours trawling every possible online grot fest, rather than going instead to the most obvious place.

    Playing the lottery is fun! 

    (That gif is great - I had not seen that one before.)

  13. 2 minutes ago, Blank face said:

    Abeille wood from roughly the between the wars period in my experience. The weight could make it usable as a viola bow for students, if it's possible to get enough hair into it. Otherwise dustbin.:)

    :) Thanks.

    Are you familiar with that style of mountings? They are new to me.

     

  14. I have never seen a frog with this style of mountings: very narrow slide and oddly cut ferrel. The bow is stamped "Germany" on the butt. The metal has a slightly greenish tarnish, therefore I assume it is bronze or some copper alloy. The button and underslide are pinned. The frog and stick have matching manufacturing marks, and the metal lapping underneath the deteriorated thumb pad was also golden color. Weighs 57g as is. Strong stick.

    Restore or dustbin?

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