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  1. Apparently Simson & Frey was renamed to Scherl & Roth in 1932 where they continued to be U.S. distributors for Roth violins. This is different than the history described on the current Roth website. "After a few brief jobs in violin departments of other companies, Roth’s expertise led him to manage the Simson & Frey violin department, where his reputation grew throughout the United States and abroad. In 1932, upon the retirement of Herman Simsom, Roth teamed with Max Scherl to buy the Simson & Frey firm. They renamed it Scherl & Roth. In 1938, the company moved from New York to Cleveland, Ohio, an early hub of violin manufacturing in the U.S." https://www.conn-selmer.com/en-us/our-brands/scherl-and-roth
  2. @Bardan It is a beautiful tune, one of my favorites, and often attributed to O'Carolan. It has an amusing story (legend?) behind it: Captain Francis O'Neill[3] suggests
  3. "Give Me Your Hand" was actually written by Rory Dall O'Cahan.
  4. I agree or @Shelbow should remove it.
  5. You're welcome! How many luthiers are established in Cremona today?
  6. While the global demand for watches grew dramatically over time, the %share of the global production for Swiss watches dropped from almost 60% to under 10%. I don't know how that how that breaks out into the lower and middle-priced categories.
  7. The point is that the Swiss Watch industry used to lead the world watch market, now it has become mostly a niche industry for status symbol luxury watches, which I suppose is fine for the players in that industry, but most of the Swiss Watch industry is long gone. As @Shelbow points out they missed the boat on the wearable tech market, but long before that they missed the boat on digital technology as inexpensive Japanese-made digital watches killed the sales of Swiss-made mechanical watches. It is doubtful that Cremonese makers are going to ever compete successfully in the low-priced quality mass-produced instrument space, so they will have to establish their individual brands as niche producers of high-end premium-quality violins, and then they will be competing against each other and other international makers. It remains to be seen if the cachet of a "Cremonese violin" alone will continue to command premium market value in the future, particularly if the quality is highly variable. When you buy an authentic Rolex, you know what you're buying, but not so much with a "Cremonese violin." @Dimitri Musafia There are many many things that remain valuable, in-demand, and have high resale values long after the original sale by the firm that made them, but that does not help keep a firm in business if the marketplace stopped buying their new products. On the bright side for violin makers, I don't think that we can expect to see an Apple violin anytime soon.
  8. Well, I would not hold the Swiss watch industry as an example. It has continued to decline for decades. Sales of the Apple Watch alone outsold the entire Swiss Watch industry in 2020. https://www.forbes.com/sites/enriquedans/2020/02/07/how-apple-killed-the-swiss-watchindustry/?sh=56d038eb60ce
  9. And how you know the grafts were original on the Roths? Did you buy them from the factory when they were new?
  10. Well, of course, I could be "wrong again," but not a single Roth among the dozens photographed in the Tarisio archives has a grafted neck. I have also personally owned several high-end Roths including 2 X-Rs, from the 20's, and neither had a grafted neck.
  11. Send pictures and description to Mr. Roth. It looks right for a Roth model to me. The neck graft would not be original to a Roth. Your luthier was correct in preventing you from removing the label. The bows look like nice bows that were likely made under contract to specification for the EHR firm. From the ones I have seen, the bows with the EHR brand are superior to the Sivori and Leon Pique brands that were often sold with Roth outfits. I have never seen a gold-mounted EHR bow before. Nice! Too bad the EHR firm does not have records of where they bought their bows. It is very unlikely that EHR I was making bows himself.
  12. Ah, I see. That is a misunderstanding. The expression "Hang one's hat" has nothing to do with democratic processes or voting. "Hang one's hat" is an American English idiom that infers "To settle or take up residence somewhere." In this case, I was using the expression to say that people are free to choose whatever individual opinion they settle on. I hope that clears that up.
  13. Having looked at some additional pictures from the OP in PMs, I agree with the consensus that the rib joins appear pinched, and the violin is likely of Saxon origin. I don't think that anybody here proposed that violin identification is a democratic voting process. Obviously we all find it interesting to read about and discuss violins that are posted on MN, and opinions will differ, even expert opinions. Civil discussions sharing ideas and observations are how we all learn. At least that is how I learn, anyway.
  14. It's violin with mixed signals. If the linings are let-in, that is pretty much definitive that it is not Saxon. We can't tell for certain, but the tapered linings going into the blocks are an indication to me that they are let-in, plus the OPs description that the blocks are asymmetric. Also, the purfling is very close to edge, and the bottom rib appears to have been originally one piece, two more indications of a Mittenwald box. So one can choose to think that the "notch" (which could have easily been added when the ribs and saddle were modified) and the grafted scroll (which may not even be original) are stronger signals of the origin than the features OP and I have pointed out. Nothing wrong with difference of opinions. Everybody gets to hang their hat where they choose.
  15. Why? If you look closely at the linings, they taper before meeting the corner blocks suggesting strongly that they are inserted into the blocks. We can't know for sure without taking off the top, but if the linings are inserted and the bottom rib started life as one piece, it isn't likely a Saxon box. Plus, that purfling...
  16. The bottom rib looks like it may have been one-piece originally, and the saddle once was set into the rib. The rib joins are ambiguous, but on-the-whole look mitered to me. From the description of the OP, the corner blocks are consistant with inserted linings, and the linings look like they taper-in before meeting the blocks. The purfling is very close to the edge. There also appear to be tooth-plane marks in the back interior. On the other hand, it is hard for me to tell from the picture if there is a delta at the base of the scroll, and I can't see how deep the fluting goes from the pictures. There is what appears to be a notch on the bottom plate, typical of Markneukirchen violins. I am leaning toward mid-19c. Mittenwald.
  17. Can you please post clear well-lit pictures of: - The 4 rib joins - The bottom rib - The throat of the scroll - The front and back of the scroll Thank you.
  18. Agree with Blank face: To my eye, the head is not a Pfretzschner head.
  19. Follow-up: I received this bow back from @Josh Henry who did a magnificent restoration on it. It is a fine bow by Johann Christian Suess. All the original parts of the frog were retained, and only the minimum amount of wood was replaced. And, importantly, Josh was a great person to work with. The "Before cleaning" pictures are at the beginning of the thread. Here are some Before-After restoration pictures:
  20. GeorgeH

    Violin ID

    Looks like a one-piece bottom rib, so not likely built-on-back.
  21. Never ever count on an instrument's sound improving over time by so-called "playing in." From your description, I think you're on the wrong side of this trade.
  22. I am not sure how it was playable with the G-string almost off the fingerboard! But, yes, get thee to a lutherie!
  23. GeorgeH

    Violin ID

    Me, neither. Not a Markneukirchen box, either.
  24. I am not a luthier, but I am curious as to why nobody has suggested an inside cheek after closing the crack followed by insertion of a carbon-fiber bushing if the peg hole isn't too big. This repair can be very close to invisible.
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