GeorgeH
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Thanks for your comments and continuing interest in this bow and this thread. I am looking forward to your article. This particular bow is still my favorite player.
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benighted | bəˈnīdəd | adjective 1. in a state of pitiful or contemptible intellectual or moral ignorance, typically owing to a lack of opportunity. Really, do you take pleasure in insulting anybody and everybody who disagrees with you? Nobody here seriously said that there is "no such thing as good music or bad music, there is only music." What was discussed is the idea that music is objectively "good," which it clearly is not. Music can be "good" or "bad," but that determination is purely and wholly individual and subjective.
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If you don't know the variance in the data and the precision and accuracy of the measurements, then how can you determine if any 2 curves are statistically different from each other? Although they look visually different, without a statistical analysis of the data and knowing the experimental error, it is really impossible to say if they are different or not.
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I don't either. :-) Can you (or have you ever) overlaid all 90 hits to see what the variance between hits is?
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So does a line represent the mean response for 90 hammer hits?
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What is the accuracy and precision of these measurements? Does each line represent a single experiment, or is it the mean of multiple tests? Thanks.
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As "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," good is in the ear of the listener. Music is neither good nor bad but for the listener to make it so.
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Yes, but only because the objective and subjective have merged into Humpty Dumpty meaninglessness.
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It's all good.
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If you decide to make-up whatever convenient personal definition of "objective" that you want then the word becomes meaningless. The definition of "objective" is not subjective. Let's use the dictionary: objective | əbˈjektiv | adjective1 (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts: historians try to be objective and impartial. Contrasted with subjective.• not dependent on the mind for existence; actual: a matter of objective fact. Otherwise you're just speaking like Humpty Dumpty:*
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If it is just "for some" but not for others, then it is not an objective measure, by definition.
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Analyzing music, i.e. "any harmony or counterpoint treatise," counts as a musical experience, and violation of a pre-defined set of rules can objectively considered "not good," in regards to obeying the rules, but it does not make the music itself intrinsically and objectively "not good:" "Music is more than notes on a page." A popular example is that using the tritone ("the Devil's Chord") was rejected in some musical treatises as "wrong", but that reason did not make music using the chord objectively "bad." It has been posited here by some that music is objectively "good" or "not good." One of the people espousing this position wrote repeatedly that a very fine violinist is a "fraud" and a "charlatan" because of her performances, so I am waiting to find out how it can be objectively discerned if any given piece of music from any culture at any time (past, present, or future) is "good" or "not good."
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There is nothing wrong with a musical experience being personally judged subjectively "good" or "bad" according to an individual's experience. But people who claim that a musical experience has intrinsic objective qualities that define it as either "good" or "bad" (or "not good," if you prefer) ought to be able to tell us what those intrinsic objective qualities are. Otherwise, it is poppycock.
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value Vuillaume Market Value of Vuillaume Violin Circa: ?
GeorgeH replied to TALLENCAS@GMAIL.COM's topic in The Pegbox
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You should try to get a picture of Flately with it or a certificate or letter from him that has a picture of the violin. Otherwise, it is just another mass produced violin with a story, and there are thousands of them. Probably be cooler if it was Hannibal Lector's violin.