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    Zygmuntovich at Tarisio

    And what could be the price of a new Sam violin? This one is made on 2011 and maybe the actual price for a new one could compensate the fact of selling it on auction.
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    thank you
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    I think the neck is not grafted, or at least I see the same wood grain. It has the mark of a grafted neck but seems to be scratched. What do you think? Real or fake graft? The rest of the scroll has broken in 3 parts. The varnish seems the same in the scroll like in the top and ribs.
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    Only trying to learn, if you could help me. I see that the form of the scroll is diferent from what I could see in other instruments. Mine has, viewing from front, a form of sand clock, while normally it has a triangular shape. Is this the sign of any kind of maker or school?
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    Roland Terrier solve the cluein his words. "Dont tout n’est pas dans son état d’origine” bords filets retouchés..."
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    I see evidences of a "Bad" hand making the back channel, something like the faults in the sctached top purfling. There is parts where the channel has broken and let the rib see from outside.
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    And Roland answer me: "Hélas pour un instrument dont les contours ont été modifiés, il est pour moi impossible de donner une opinion sur photo ! (C'est déjà difficile en ayant l'instrument dans les mains !)Désolé" When he talk about "contour" is he pointing to purfling or edges? Could be a bigger instrument cut down?
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    Bow ID

    Maybe the same workshop as this other I have... I could read a faintly stamp the last words ***PZIG
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    Thank you but, except in the sites marked, the varnish over the purfling has a different UV luminiscence than the ribs and top. Round the c bouts the varnish under uv is opaque like the rest of the yellow back varnish. Do you see the han of any maker in this violin? in the top or the back? Example of hte purfling under UV in the bottom of the back, I think that here the purfling doesn´t show varnish over it
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    I know this could not change anything, but Could the back and ribs be made from the same wood and the alteration in the UV color are due to a overcoat of varnish to retouch or french polish? The same varnish in the top and neck/scroll.
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    Here I add UV light pictures. All except the back looks similar, including the ribs and scroll. and few retouches in the back.
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    I used uv light torch and saw diffences in varnish between top and back and race be, but I don't know if it could be signifcatives. Later I will try to upload pictures with the UV light. My idea is that the back looks better in quality and workmanship and looks older, at least at my eyes.
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    Talk with @Ratcliffiddles Peter, is a great person and a incredible professional. Here is the information found in the Peter's dendrochronological research: "The most significant correlations against data from our database, and published reference from the International tree-ring Data-bank, place the latest visible ring on the bass side at year A.D.1756, and that of the treble side at A.D.1758..." "The response with data from other instruments, however is specific, with the vast majority of cross-matching data referring to instruments made in France in the period between about 1720/30 and very soon after the French Révolution. The wood of both sides, despite the fact that they are unlikely to be from the same tree, are, can therefore be described as being fairly typical of the wood used predominantly, not to say exclusively, in France during that period. With an overall dendrochronological or latest visible ring date of 1758, with the strong likelihood of a couple more un-measured rings on the treble side, we can suggest a manufacturing date from about the mid-to-late 1760s onwards. In my experience, I almost never see instrument soundboards made of coniferous wood from the particular location the trees in question came from, after about 1800." Like we are talking in the forum it looks like the top is from vieux Paris, like a reparation or replaced top. And seems like the back and ribs are older. Now, how could I know from where and when the back belongs? Any idea or way to found answers? Thank you all
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    I show here the worst of the examples. The other ribs/channel doesn´t see from outside. I thought that the top could be from other hand/period but looking as it looks I hope the back could be older and the top would be vieux Paris.... Other problem is the back purfling, this quality doesn´t seem too Italian for the comun
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    Violin ID. Frenchie-Frankie-English?

    Yes, the upper block is new and is over a plateau or catwalk. The bottom block looks original but like if someone cut away part of the old wood. But the form looks original. The 4 blocks seems older like the rest. One of the upper corner blocks looks diferent: I was reading and it could be a possibility to be "I" because in Turin school they use this kind of construction, and the french connection is in all of his high. " the earliest instruments reveal a strongly Flemish construction system, familiar also to the makers of the German states, which included ribs inset into channels in the back and one-piece necks and top blocks glued to an extended platform. It is a system that a maker trained in lute and guitar construction might adopt for the purpose of reproducing a Flemish violin. This method, with minor adjustments, remained the standard for violin construction in Turin until the arrival of G.B. Guadagnini in 1771. " from https://tarisio.com/cozio-archive/cozio-carteggio/violin-making-in-turin-part-1-1650-1770/