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    Arpeggione Help!

    https://simpk.de/arpeggione_790.html They say it is tuned E-A-d-g-h-e' as a guitar (h=b). Here a blog about it: http://arpeggione2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/arpeggione-stauffers-model.html And wikiedia also has the information about the tuning https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpeggione according to which the only old piece is that by Schubert but since a copy of an Arpeggione was made some more have been written for it (probably transcriptions). This is what it sounds like: Intonation isn't great.
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    Arpeggione Help!

    That's "Anleitung zur Erlernung des von Hrn. Georg Staufer neu erfundenen Guitare-Violoncells" = Instructons to learn the guitar cello that was invented by Mr Georg Staufer.
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    Arpeggione Help!

    Is there any piece beyond Schubert's sonata that was written for the Arpeggione? Apparently the instrument had disappeared by the time Schubert had written it.
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    Frequency analysis violas

    I am trying to understand some frequency analysis of instruments, and wonder whether some of the experts here could give me some hints. Number 1 is a spectrum generated using Audacity with strings muted, by knocking on the bridge. Major frequencies are: 231Hz – largest/ widest peak overall Shoulders at 203 and 259Hz 321 Hz 374/385Hz 453Hz – as large at 231Hz – about 2*231Hz 489Hz 534Hz (with shoulder to the left) 566Hz - 591Hz - 636Hz - 665Hz - 713Hz - 781Hz - 817Hz - 873Hz - 945Hz - 977Hz Could someone help me assign what is what? This is a 402 body length viola, nicely resonant, very good C string, well balanced sound with an interesting edge to it. Here another instrument: 210Hz Shoulder at 245Hz 342Hz 417Hz/447HZ 480Hz 592Hz - 567Hz - 594Hz - 636Hz - 661Hz - 714Hz - 781Hz - 821/ 851/ 867Hz - 941Hz This is a 41.6cm body length viola, very strong dark sound, extremely resonant on the C string, very large powerful sound. The better of the two, but the first one is also very new. I am trying to learn and hope some of you have the patience to look at this: What is B1, B1+, what are the other frequencies? Which sould would you predict from this analysis? Can provide a sound sample should someone be interested. I can later add some simpler Chinese instrument.
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    Frequency analysis violas

    There is this article, www.jpschmidtviolins.com/Violin_Acoustics_2.pdf which I think is by Don Noon, our fellow maestronetter. It refers to this average table in the Strad for the 'key modes' of Stradivarius violins (I attached a screen shot of the spread sheet). I wonder whether anything along these lines exists for violas. What viola sound are we looking for? I know what I like, they must not be 'nasal', I like a strong C-string, I like it if they also have an edge in the upper strings (whatever this means). I have hardly every seen a viola at an auction that I liked.
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    Frequency analysis violas

    I am trying to get the higher frequencies - they depend a lot on the environment, one almost needs a sound isolated room - which I do not have. Any laptop fan in the background will add a signature. Higher frequencies from from frequency modulating power supplies (dimmable LEDs etc) all add to that sound spectrum. I work a lot with frequency analysis in science (I do something called NMR) and we would not accept a signal that does not have a signal to noise ratio of around 5 and is clearly reproducible.
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    Frequency analysis violas

    Thanks for this detailed response.
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    Frequency analysis violas

    Usually for violins only frequencies below 600Hz seem to be considered for A0, B0, B1, B1+ http://www.catgutacoustical.org/research/articles/modetune/modechrt.html Schleske looks into the noise at higher frequencies but then one needs a more dampening window function. He also reads a lot out of some noise: http://www.schleske.de/en/research/introduction-violin-acoustics/sound-analysis.html One should average these signals, this is what we do in my field, NMR spectroscopy. We ust average equal signals until S/N is stronger. The type of frequency analysis is similar (except that you can't get a complex signal, i.e. two orthogonal signals, from a violin). Schleske also plots the x-axis chromatically, which I assume means log2 scale, as any double frequency is an octave. Audacity can't do this, but I can use matlab if I can figure out how to fft a signal that is not complex (i.e. of two rectangular channels). Maybe a HIlbert transform and then a power calculation? All this has been figured out before but is not well dcumented anywhere. At least I can't find it. My fundamental question is which resonances should be strongest for a good sounding viola.
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    Frequency analysis violas

    Above 1400 it is mainly noise. But I can post it tomorrow. The dynamic range of my setup is limited. I used a Zoom USB mic and switched off all autoscaling etc.
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    Violin ID

    Guaranteed not Blanchard. Kind of from he opposite side of the spectrum.
  11. What do you use to colour your varnish? Will you apply a layer with more colour?
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    Merry Christmas everyone!

    Same for you all!
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    Testore cello?

    What does this tell us about you Martin? This means you might be able to identify it as it is not, but as it is not you are also happy to say so. And it is easier to identify it as not being a Testore than otherwise?
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    Violin I/d - French or German?

    I agree that this is not a JB Collin, the varnish is completly different, and the underground untreated (dirty borwn where the wood comes through). But the fingerboard of the Bridgewood and Neitzert violin is also untypical as Mirecourt makers always rounded the corners of the fingerboard.
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    Challenging repertoire for post-Grade 8 violinist

    The 24 Caprices by Paganini are a good challenge for a grade 8
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    Berlin School

    There were just some makers over the years. I also think you can't call it Berliner School. But I know at least one luthier in that area who has an interest in Berliner Geigenbauer. It is a little like the Scottish makers ...
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    Berlin School

    Berlin school: Oswald/ Otto/ Max Möckel, Otto Seifert, Ludwig Glaesel, Dötsch, Ludwig Neuner. Seen as Berlin school by German makers. I know a luthier in Germany who specialises in this school.
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    Wolf on viola

    Thanks
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    Wolf on viola

    I have a really good sounding viola with an annoying wolf on the E on the G-string. It doesn't rattle but the note sounds sick, much weaker. It is not there on the same note on the D-string, there the E is crystal clear. But I have to play many passages in 1st position that work better in 3rd. I know how to eliminate it. A little pair of magnets does the job - see the picture. I shifted it arond to find the optimal position. Further down it makes a worse wolf on F, but in this position all is gone. I do not like this magnet on the instrument and wonder what solution you would suggests. One could stick a piece of wood on the front through the f-hole, one could also fit a slightly higher bass bar.
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    Wolf on viola

    You were spot-on with "so I'd look for something vibrating that does not radiate sound". This viola has a very thin fingerboard, made in Degani's style, hollow underneath. If I stick a piece of lead underneath with double sided tape the wolf is completely gone. How did you come to this guess? Because B modes can'e be around E or F?
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    Kloz ID

    A violin without label, although one can see where the label was. One pece front and one piece unfigured back.I would say this has to be a Kloz of some kind. Georg II? The f-holes are untypical. Can supply more pictures for better ID. The top and bottom blocks more square shaped and not round (more what I know from French instruments). The corner blocks exxtend further into the (one piece) bottom rib than intot he C-bout ribs. Sounds nice, dark tone, typical for such a highly arched instrument
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    Kloz ID

    Knitl should have a signature on the back. I will have another close look whether there is anything faded, but I think not, I would have seen this. The pins, in particular the 3 in the button, could be later - although, why would anyone add 3 pins there??? Reminds me of Monty Python's Michelangelo in which he paints the Last SUpper with 3 Christs.
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    Kloz ID

    The square shaped blocks (not the half moon shape) is French, isn't it?
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    Kloz ID

    Here the dimensions, hard to measure over the high arch: Length of back over arch: 358mm Width: upper bouts: 166mm lower bouts: 204mm mid C bouts: 114mm Rib heights: neck: 31-32mm, bottom 32-33mm, mid C bouts 31mm, corners (all 4) 32mm