Irishfiddler

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  1. No its not just a simple touch up because the varnish is built up in some areas and almost warn off in others. It seems like the varnish has been applied in a way that it is much heavier than it should be, almost like some one painted fence emulsion on it. Thats why I decided to remove it because it just looks nasty. My question was would it be possible to create the type of colour that was originally on the violin? The varnish is defiantly not spirit because it took a lot of work to remove it than just applying turpentine and letting it desolve. Then some one asked Which I think would be better to answer in another topic because this seems to going off on a tangent.
  2. Maybe another thread for this would be better? Because none of this helps at all with varnish types?
  3. Shilling? http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Terminology-No-1-Shilling-Sniping-Proxy-Bidding-/10000000000703163/g.html
  4. I talked to a luthier and he said that the varnish has probably been lade on in the opposite way so was causing the cracking. He didn't really say if it was worth anything and suggested putting it on ebay instead of trying to match the varnish. It seems in good condition so I'm going to try set it up when some parts come ,
  5. Probably copying this Emile Blondelet add http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16874/lot/32/ for £2 000. The neck looks too clean to have been used and its a bit over labeled to be real imo but could be wrong .
  6. Without trolling and flaming, I think I'll get it checked out by a Luthier next week and see what he thinks about it. If its worth a lot I might try get it re varnished by a luthier, if not so much just put a light coat on the back and set it up to see what it sounds like.
  7. So I'm guessing if its Simon Kriner, then some one could buy it off me for £400? Any one interested before I re varnish it? Or are Krinners worth less then Kriners?
  8. I think the photos might make it look a lot nicer than it actually does, it looks like some one used it to clean their carpet tbo. Bits of hair stuck in the varnish, newspaper and other unknown dirt. The varnish seems to be all congealed around the sides and totally warn off in other areas, not letting in much view of the natural wood below. The soundpost has a lot of holes in it like some one tried 100 times to try to fit it without any luck. Plus the violin its self cost hardly anything. I don't think its a Kriner because it came in a cloth and card box which doesn't look that old or expensive and had a guitar string packet bought from Joseph Higham band instrument shop in Manchester. I'll try a basic set up to see what it sounds like and also would be interested if its a violin after Strad or Amati.
  9. Yep, one i got in a cheap case I bought was Skylark and looks very similar to this one, just some of the fittings have been replaced and it came in an old box. Maybe the box is what was early 20th century and worth £80-120? http://www.mulberrybankauctions.com/lot-detail.aspx?ID=19888&imagePre=30082013&lotNumber=312&auctionId=2211&itemsPerPage=50&red=true&pageNo=300
  10. Even after fashioning a bridge it sounded horrible, I took the bridge off because I don't want to waste a nice bridge on a crummy violin. I don't think any Czech company would make a violin of this low quality in all honesty. Of course the auction over priced the violin and sold it as a Scottish violin, and estimate of £80-120 for this when I have seen a Boosy and Hawk viola of higher quality in a local auction for only £40-80 estimate doesn't make much sense to me. Its also evident there was another label below the current one which was taken off before the sale.
  11. I'm not sure if that is possible, there is a lot of hair in the varnish too, but how would it be possible to use the old finish?
  12. Hi, I've decided to upload afew photos: You can see the neck has been varnished ><, and pegs and finger board painted over in black.
  13. Hi, I just acquired a nice violin which I'd like to work on revarnishing. Gallery here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/antiqueviolins_uk/sets/72157635944116984/ It looks like the varnish has been burned and is quite cracked and melted in parts. I've removed some of the varnish on the back and the wood doesn't seem to have any damage to it. I'm wondering if anyone knows what kind of varnish was on the original from these photos? It looks quit red and is black in some areas where it has been heavily damaged. I'd like to try and create an old feel to the violin close to the feel of the most undamaged parts in the middle. I'd also like to know where is Europe would be best to buy old looking oil violin varnish, Would this be a good place to start? http://www.oldwood1700.com/ Thanks for any advice
  14. I think the problem I have is that the violin was sold as Scottish not unknown violin which would make more sense. It seems to me like the auctioneers knew that the violin was cheaply made but wanted to push a sale, to £80-£120 pounds. I saw a German violin which was in nice condition and playable estimated for the same price, so if the valuers thought this was the same quality as an old German violin then I am not sure they know anything about violins. Some things that first alerted me were: The bridge in the original photo was missing and only a broken bridge was left in the box, there was no photo to show the cheap label inside, the photo put online was edited to make the violin look yellow and not brow/red. So it was obvious the auction house was trying to cover up all these facts to raise the price online. I'm not sure if I can upload photos before I get in contact with the auction house to try and return it, but it looks like a very normal factory violin you might find for £40 in Dawsons or even cheaper. It doesn't have any aging or been revarnished to look old. After set up it just sounds horrible, so there is no way I can sell it on for any kind of money without being dishonest my self. Its only use it as a prop or ornament in a bar or some thing .
  15. I was browsing a site called the-saleroom.com in the hopes of finding a nice instrument listed in a live auctions. I searched for a Scottish violin hoping to find a few armature made or cheap antique Scottish violins. I found one at an auction in Glasgow which seemed like just what I wanted: 'SCOTTISH VIOLIN early 20th century' was the description so I waited for the auction and made a bid. The violin went for much less than I thought so was happy with my purchase but a little suspicious. The violin on the picture looked in good condition with yellowish varnish, a light wooden tail piece and old 50s looking box. After waiting the violin arrived. The box was as expected old, but on inspection the violin looked very lightly made with standard redy varnish, the fingerboard was painted black! and the varnish was flaking off the top of the violin with a slight rub of my nail. The purfling also rubbed off.. Finally I tried to set up the violin and it sounded very gritty like a badly set up banjo or guitar more than a violin sound, totally unplayable. Inside it said 'Edmund may Glasgow' in what looked like a label printed on a computer in ms word, with a cute music clip art.. slightly higher than where the old label should have been. I did a search and found another violin also from Edmund may of glasgow http://www.amati.com/auctions/violins/for-sale-at-auction/vintage-violin-refurbished-by-edmund-may-of-glasgow.html which sold for a higher price than what I payed. I checked the tail piece and saw (w Germany) on the fine tuners. The violin its self looks very much like a cheap Chinese factory violin maybe £40 max brand new. Defiantly not a hand made Scottish violin. I phoned the auction house and they said I had time to inspect the violin before the auction. I wasn't able to do this because I wasn't able to travel to Scotland so they said I should have asked for an inspection to be made. Is it me or would the auction house have changed their story of it being a Scottish violin if I had asked for an inspection? Its kind of like saying a car is a vintage Porsche but on inspection it was only a cheap Citron and selling it at a high price. So is this person buying old Chinese violins and putting them in old boxes claiming they are vintage violins, then selling them at auctions? The one in the amati page looks quite nice again but I am guessing another cheap fake. Has anyone had any experience of this and if so did you manage to get a refund? At least Ebay is working with paypal to stop fraud but it seems UK auctions are actively encouraging it..