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  1. On 8/8/2022 at 4:02 PM, TimRobinson said:

    I found this interesting, but as an archivist I guess I would.  In terms of conservation, less is more.  I'd just put them in some archival Mylar (TM) or similar sleeves.

    The presentation by the "Conservatory of Paris" on 27 February 1837 seems to be a very definite statement.  I'd follow that up with their archives: https://cnsad-psl-eu.translate.goog/ecole/archives/?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc 

    Tim

    Thank you so much!  I admit I didn't even consider simple archival mylar sleeves :)  That would be perfect.   I tried to look up the Conservator of Paris but didn't get the same page you posted, that is very helpful.  I heard back from Tarisio, and I'm going to send them scans, they will see if they have a fiddle to match the papers with. 

  2. 2 hours ago, deans said:

    Looks like a good violin. Not sure what the case is here but any given violin player could have a pile of junky violins along with good stuff. 

    Yep, it does look nice.  The listing said he had a "violin comedy act" so I'm guessing the other three were some of the stage props.  I didn't find much on him except that he passed away about a year ago. 

  3. I saw these on eBay and saved them in my favorites for a few months.  The seller offered a discount so I bought them; I just love stuff like this, and it would be very fun to figure out what "VIOLIN" they go with! 

    I did find the family in Ancestry listed in the Netherlands ("Danish West Indies") St. Thomas census,  but absolutely zero on the person the fiddle was given to, "Mr. Henwood".   I found an Andreas Moser mentioned in a Strad article, and an August Moser in "An Encyclopedia of the Violin", but neither is the same person as far as I can tell.  

    August L. Moeser was listed as a Freemason, United Grand Lodge of England, initiated age 30 in 1857.  According to these papers he passed away at age 52, March 3. 1879.  On March 16, his widow and children transferred ownership of his fiddle to Mr. Henwood.  

    I'm sure there are much better researchers on M-net that either know or could find out more than I can!  I plan to contact Tarisio and send them over if they'd like to keep them for the archives.  The pages were folded and are very delicate so they need to be properly conserved.  Maybe they know the fiddle these papers belong to or if not, some day it will show up :) 

     

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    Danish West Indies Census, 1841-1901 - Ancestry.com.pdf England, United Grand Lodge of England Freemason Membership Registers, 1751-1921 - Ancestry.com.pdf

  4. 2 hours ago, GeorgeH said:

    The Roth system of maker's names and years used to assign model names was in existence in 1924 as seen in the catalog published that year, so this violin could very well have had that model designation when it was made.

    The OP's violin looks like a Roth model XI-R (Reproduction of Guarneri 1736), and the date and label look authentic. I have also seen other Roth violins from the 20's and 30's that don't have serial numbers (also 1952's). 

    Whether it was ultimately exported to the US or not, it seems reasonable that it was originally made in the workshop as a Roth Model XI-R, and I think Wilhelm Roth can justifiably describe it as such.

    What I find confusing is that style of label versus the more common style we see see in the US: 

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    Since it actually is from the 20s it's probably one of those you've seen without a serial number.  As for the label,  I wouldn't be surprised if the original label was "harvested" and the later replacement label was put in at some point afterword.  As @martin swan mentioned, the label is from the WWII timeframe, which would make a date in the 1920s a bit off, unless the person who put the replacement label in knew the probable date of the fiddle from the model and added it.     

    I have MA Juzek that "lost" its original label at some point and had a fake Rinaldi label in it when I bought it.  Of course a MA Juzek is identifiable a mile away so it doesn't matter what label it has, but maybe we'll put a nice facsimile label in it some day just for future owners' reference.  It's possible this is what happened with the OP's Roth.  

  5. 3 hours ago, Brad Dorsey said:

    I think jewelers and cash-for-gold places use test kits that can be obtained from jewelers’ suppliers like Rio Grande.

    I have a small bottle of acid for tarnishing silver that I bought from a jewelers’ supplier that turns silver black instantly.  At first I thought that this would be a good test for silver.  But I found that it also also turns nickel ferrules black.

    A craftsman with a chemistry background told me that silver can be tarnished with egg yolk.  I haven”t tried it, but you could.  If it does, and if it doesn’t turn nickel silver black, this could be a good test.

    I collect a lot of silver jewelry and objects, I will definitely try the egg yolk method next time I need to check! I've never heard of this before, thank you! 

  6. I swear I was looking for Native American jewelry and this was one of the auctions in the search.  They have a nice bracelet, but it's overpriced :lol:

    Turns out there are a lot of fiddles and bows that are "The Property of a Gentleman" in this auction.

    I'm just going to leave this here.  I don't have $8K or $120K so clearly I'm not bidding on it!  

    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/130596158_an-important-certified-carlo-antonio-testore-violin

    @PhilipKT SO many bows!

  7. 16 hours ago, Violadamore said:

    But what if you try to give it back and they just laugh and say, "Oh, no, you keep it.  We already sent photos to a site called Maestronet, and an Austrian expert named Jacob told us it was rubbish."  :lol:

    :lol: 

  8. 4 hours ago, Violadamore said:

    I simply cannot empathize with that.  OTOH, scrounging an undiscovered one at an estate sale for $50 would impress me immensely.  :lol:

    I think it would impress any of us!  Not that it will ever happen but I always wonder what that sort of discovery would entail.  What would be fair to the family it belonged to?  Give it back?  Ask for a finder's fee and sell it at auction?  Ask for 50%?  Just avoid getting sued?  Thankfully I don't think any of us will ever be in the position to deal with ethical dilemmas like that, but it's interesting to think about.

    Fortunately the family heirlooms I've found at auction and returned are not worth millions, or even hundreds  :lol:  so I just give them back. 

  9. 7 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

    OK, looks like it went for $13,000,000 plus fees, to the original first bidder, after 5 extensions.  The door just slammed shut.

    Those two bidders were sniping each other like it was eBay, for a while.  :lol:

    Is $15.34M a record?  

    I know!!  Once it went down to 20 seconds!  

    I was looking at unsold lots and I swear there was a few minutes left.  I went to check the Strad and the page stopped loading.  I tried the auction link again (twice) and got this: "connect failed: cannot assign requested address".   On the third try it worked and the Strad showed completed at 3:15 EST for $13M. 

     

     

  10. 13 hours ago, violinnewb said:

    Fast forward to this morning--my mother told me that she had 3 violins to send to me.  I asked her for pictures and to read the labels, but she is old LOL.

     

    Am I the only one wondering what the other two fiddles are? :) 

    Also, is there any way you can arrange help for your mom to pack and ship them for her?  That's quite a job even for folks that do it regularly. Most online auction houses will refer you to a UPS or similar for packing and shipping services, so maybe you can contact one nearby?

     

  11. 8 hours ago, germain said:

    Yes very innovative design-  from the way the bows are suspended to the way the instrument is secured in place by being held in the middle of the case by its building blocks rather than applying pressure against the chin-rest and tied neck etc., also the shell is reinforced by metal. Amazing latches that create air tight case.
     

    I had a GEWA air 1.8.  It had such a flimsy shell. A few years ago I slipped on ice the top of the case gave way in and destroyed the top of one of my teaching instruments.

     

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    It's gorgeous!  Congrats :) 

  12. 2 hours ago, zhiyi_zhang617 said:

    While believe a connection between two schools, besides Fussen violins tend to be rare and older, I, as a novice, is very confused, stylistically in particular.

    There are differences, probably apparent for an expert.

    An instrument of mine, probably ca 1800 or a little ealier, was believed to be a Fussen. Clearly, luthiers who are the experts in German violin-making could tell Fussen and Mittenwald apart, could not they?

    Hope Jocob or others would generously comment.

    I'm sure Jacob could explain the "Fussen diaspora" for the class :) 

  13. 1 minute ago, noidea22 said:

    Do I interpret the picture you posted correctly, that your guess is a german Stainer copy?

    As Jacob said, it's a Dutzendarbeit.   I don't think it's a copy of anything, I've just seen a kabillion of these with any number of fake labels, and Steiner was the first one I thought of.  There's a reason the label is the last thing we should look at; the vast majority of the time the label is fake and has zero to do with the instrument.  

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