Pho6

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  1. Auctioning for violins will for sure be overvalued, and definitely won't be an accurate depiction of what the true cost of your violin is. I have a friend who auctioned for a violin 10 years ago at an auction house. The price of the violin gradually went up to $8000, which my friend eventually made the last bid for and won the auction for the "$8000 violin". Keep in mind, prices for bids in auctions go up incrementally over each bidder... and so after an exchange of "x" number of bids, the "value" of the violin (the price at which bidders were willing to pay for the violin) went up to about $8000, and was sold. So for the past 10 years, my friend has been telling everybody around him that he was playing with an $8000 violin (rightfully so, if he paid that much for it). Until couple months back, we went to get his violin appraised at 3 separate appraisal stores to hear that his violin is actually only worth $3000. He was shocked. So if 3 different appraisal stores were able to identify the violin as a $2500 violin, that sort of tells me that there IS some sort of 'true value' to violins if 3 experts can agree on the same price. How often do we customers pay for a violin, where the price of the instrument will be within a relevant range of what violin appraisers would say the violin is really worth? I'm really loving the discussion though. I just find it funny how we often see people talk about how much their instrument is worth... yet I think to myself, is that really how much its worth? or is it simply just a matter of how nice your salesperson was feeling that day? Thank you for bringing up this book ""Violin Fraud: Deception, Forgery, Theft, and Lawsuits in England and America". I think I will give it a good read.
  2. Hi, I've been violin/bow shopping recently and I began to wonder, will the customer ever know the "true" value of the instrument/bow that they bought? Stores will definitely put some sort of premium on the instrument, but as a customer unless we have the violin appraised elsewhere, we're never really going to know the true value. I was looking at a violin couple months back and really liked the instrument (feel and tone), but the instrument was marked at $3500. This was over my budget. When I asked if the price could be lowered, the sales person punched some numbers on his calculator and very willingly knocked off $500. I personally felt that was a little too easy and probably could have brought it down more. Similar story, I went back to the same store to buy a new violin bow. This Nickel Mounted Marco Raposo was labelled at $650. When I said it was over my $500 budget, the sales person punched in some numbers and brought it down to meet my $500 budget. Again, seemed too easy. Is this a sign of 'good customer service'? Or the result of a significant markup in prices? This makes me wonder how much my "$3000" violin is really worth. Maybe it's only worth $2000 and they just pocketed $1000. Kind of depressing, but I might just get it appraised at another store some day just out of curiosity. Anybody else have a similar experience? For people that own violin stores, is there a general "mark-up" (like 20%) on the actual value of instruments/bows?
  3. Thanks so much for your help!
  4. Can someone help identify where this violin is from and how much it may be worth? Pictures here: http://imgur.com/a/sBXB1#0
  5. Can imitation violins be of good quality? I recently purchased one and I absolutely love the sound and feel of the violin. But is it just me? Or can copy violins actually be good? The violin reads: COPIE DE NICOLAUS AMATIUS CREMONIEA HIERONIMI FILIUS ANTONI NEPOS FECIT 1676. Its a french violin made circa 1920s from Mirecourt. Any insights? And Anybody know how much my violin may be worth?