Thevi_Olin

My only performances in public are with my guitars, so.... I remember a gig a few years back when I was doing a solo rendition of 'love struck baby' on a borrowed twelvestring. I got into it quite well, and the moment I wanted to start the solo part a guy started yelling for 'hey joe!' and slamming slammed his fist on the table.... .. . I lost the swing, and completely F***** up . He did get me a beer afterwards and said sorry . Other requests: stairway, cocaine, smells like teen something , and ode to joy............ If I ever take my violin out of my room, I wander what will happen. I did get some other non-music related requests that are out of place on this forum.

Everything I know right now! But, honestly I wish I started playing instuments earlier on. I got my first real instument at 18, and have been hooked ever since. I feel lucky that I do not have to deal with the industry. I see a lot of my friends struggling to make a decent living, and their frustrations make it clear that its not about art anymore. Is all about money, contacts and prestige. Quality is measured in long & shortterm moneymaking opportunities. I feel blessed that I can enjoy, play and create in a musical format without having to worry about money and stuff. A daytime job takes care of somethings, and it still enables me to make music at least 3 hours a day. (I do think about it most of the time!)

Thats just cool!! I have a soft spot for Brian and felt very sorry for him when I saw a documentary of him where after he had fought drugs. At least he survived!!!

Thanks for mentioning Brian Wilson. I'm humming good vibrations since i read the message.....

DG? Like DG in PF's DSOTM?

You don't have to say it out loud. But now I'm curious. Are his initials MK?

This better not turn into a 'who's the best guitarist' thread! Still, Page is up there. Beck is god!

True, they did write some good songs. And they had a pretty good production on the stuff.

Its a weird instrument.....I remember Jimmy Page doing some stuff with it (and his guitar) on the 'Whole lotta love' impov..... I guess learning it is kinda hard. Imagine playing a scalar pattern of fourths with it... Now here's a challenge!

Supertramp? Sorry, couldn't resist the thought that Supertramp is a very silly band, with very formulaic songs.... Its not rock.... But maybe I just listend to the best-of CD too much!! I wander what would happen in Joe Perry was a violinist? Or Jeff Beck . Dreams....

I can understand that. I wasn't too thrilled about his tone or interpretation back then, but the cadenza made me laugh! He has a fresh spin on things that is at times pleasant to listen to.

"Is there such a thing as being "technically perfect" anyway? " No! "both general musicianship and technique are important" I agree! And if you use your technique to effectively communicate your own personal muisicianship you are doing just fine!

Thanks! I had a VHS recording of the mozartconcerto and I loved his take on the cadenza!

"To enhance the sound I'm experimenting with differt types of wristvibrato. (speed, depth, phase and ADSR as variables) >> That's ok, but be sure to first produce the best possible sound with the bow and good intonation before you use vibrato, otherwise it may just hide symptoms of bad bowing or intonation" I agree! In fact, if you play a note right, the vibrato comes natural but only to enhance what is 'correct' in the first place!

"could the "wooo" sound you hear being the natural resonance of the strings? For example, if you play a G on the D-string, you should(will) hear a sympathetic vibration of the G-string" Yes, but the sound is available at any note, any position. At some points your hear it better, resonance enhances the effect. I have improved on intonation a lot by just trying to focus on this soound. In fact, I feel that this helps me to develop my relative sense of pitch further. (I have no perfect-pitch, but after playing for a few minutes my ears are tuned up!) More about the temperature: I'm not sure what the effect of humidity & temperature has on my strings (gut, eudoxa) but I can relate to the fact that this is just something that personal for me. About the guitar: Its a marvelous instrument. I use gold-plated strings (I have very agressive sweat! and price/quality/durability rate is the best of any!) , and when they are fresh and tuned to pitch its a great treat for the ears. Depending on your tuning method the G-chord is one of my favorites! What other aspects of the violintone could be considered for ear-focus techniques? I would like to exchange some ideas on this subject besides the 'woo'-sound!

Thanks for your description! I appreciate the effort you've put in to make sure that we understand each other! Your description makes perfect sense and I will see if your explanation is comparable to my efforts on tone production. These are some hints I can think of to produce the sound I like: -standup straigt, relaxed shoulders & body -as long a bow as possible -lungs full of air (Thanks to Stephen!) -Just enough tension between chin & violin -just enough contact of the bow on the string(s) and vary this for each string -without a (dare I say it) shoulderrest, but with a pad -and try to relax as much as possible -Enough bowtension -Relaxed lefthand! (No deathgrip with the thumb on the neck! It kills the sound!) To enhance the sound I'm experimenting with differt types of wristvibrato. (speed, depth, phase and ADSR as variables) What seems to be very strange is that a temperature of 23 degrees celsius with a humidity of 50%+ seem to be very good condition to create this sound. (ok, so violinplayin is not math or physiscs, but these are some observations I made). What a great instument this is....

You hear it througout, but on fast passages it's a bit more difficult to keep the ear tuned to the sound. But its always there!!

Its there allright! If you listen to the sound of the recording, you can essentially separate the fundamentalpitch and its overtones and hear them as two distict timbres! The sound I'm trying to describe is heard better when two tones resonate! So, the D on the A-string has this effect in abundance (And a bit too much so, that it's not beautiful anymore!) This is not easy to explain!

The 'woo' soound is essentially the same a the sound of your tuning fork. But if you apply (the right) vibrato it's soundquality can bring tears to your eyes. I love this sound so mucht, that I want to learn whatever I can to bring it more upfront! You can hear it well on slow, solo performances. You have to, so to speak, dail-into the sound in order to hear it though. It took me some practice, and now I can hear the pitch coming through in the big concerto's as well. Notes on the A-string are a good place to start! Recording is a bit difficult. I have a digital 8-track setup at home, but my laptop is not able to record sound. So transferring is impossible right now. Sorry for that, I would have loved to share this. in response to: " This kind of "now listen how brilliant I sound and how good I project and how I get into the string" thingy. " Of course its all a matter of personal taste, but with some help it is possible to hear other qualities in sound and that will make us reevaluate our opinion. Thats one of the reasons for me to start this thread. I want to learn from others what they appreciate in sound.

Hi all! When playing I try to focus on the fundamental pitch of the tones. Its got a great female like 'wooo' sound, and it helps me to play in tune. I was wandering if there are any methods to enhance the volume of that fundamental? (like strings, bowspeed, angle, pressure, vibrato, etc.) I'm also curious to hear what qualities of the sound other players focus on. I might not be easy to descibe, but please give it a try!

I will give the S&M DVD a go! Thanks for the advise. E few years ago I bought the Binge-box with the 3-CD & double video material. I agree that band rocks on the justice tape!

"-------------------- Champagne, coffee, sex and classical music-perfect! ----------------------------------------------- But surely not all at once? " You don't want to know! Life's good!

King Crimson! I have to dig into my collaction of albums again! I almost forgot what Robert Fripp music is like! Thanks for reminding me! Its not Rock, but the hot club jazz with Django Reinhard and Stephane Grapelli? is at times close! So much music, so little time......

" If I can say so, without offending Metallica fans, of course, I think their renditions sounds better than the original - less screamming and more melodic" no offense taken! But it is quite good to see that the music/songs stand strong. I don't like the S&M album. Bad orchestral parts and weak performance of the band. Liston to Rainbow: 'Stargazer' or 'Gates of Babylon' from Richie Blackmore's Rainbow! (Ronnie Dio is amazing!)

I have an office job as well. And like you said I feel lazy & tired when I get home. I find that 30-40 minutes of relaxing/sleeping fixes the problem! Its helps me to concentrate more during practice.